Jay-Z vs. Nas

FrigginParadox · 12-04-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Oh okay then, no music in the world is crappy.

No matter how much i rant about certain music being crappy i belive what you said is true to some degree weather i like it or not. Cus music thats crappy to someone could be great to someone else.

Sparky · 12-04-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Oh okay then, no music in the world is crappy.

Crappy music sure. Crappy music that has a career like jay? not as much

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-04-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FrigginParadox

No matter how much i rant about certain music being crappy i belive what you said is true to some degree weather i like it or not. Cus music thats crappy to someone could be great to someone else.

We're back to opinion again though. There is definitely crappy music, if there wasn't there'd be no point to having this forum, every discussion would just be "I like this, I like that." It's effectively saying the only difference between a good musician and a bad musician is whether someone thinks they're good or bad, which is obviously daft.

I admit I like some crap music. I dislike some good music too, purely because it doesn't entertain me.

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To reitterate an earlier point, how much you like it, isn't indicative of how good it is on a general level.

midnight rain · 12-04-2012, 11:23 PM

Jansz, does your way of viewing this translate into other mediums of art?

Would you argue that Ernest Hemingway was a terrible writer if you didn't like him?

FrigginParadox · 12-04-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end

We're back to opinion again though. There is definitely crappy music, if there wasn't there'd be no point to having this forum, every discussion would just be "I like this, I like that." It's effectively saying the only difference between a good musician and a bad musician is whether someone thinks they're good or bad, which is obviously daft.

I admit I like some crap music. I dislike some good music too, purely because it doesn't entertain me.

I understand what your saying 100%. But it seems like when it comes to music their is always conflict with the facts and the opinion of weather music is good or not. like whats the definition of crap music? i feel that we all have our own opinions of it, but then again that's another opinion. It is kind of a hard thing.

But I do like some of what most would say is crap music. I like some ignorant hard music like waka flocka or cheif keef and even some of Lil B's crap when he chooses not to actually try and spit which is 95% of the time lol. But i know what your saying and i can agree to that counter arguement

**Janszoon** · 12-04-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Circular argument? I made the same point.

Yes, you began with the conclusion you were trying to arrive at. It was a circular argument.

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You say talk to me in 15 years (again here we are going to the future) and im trying to reflect on my past 15 years of music listening. There is no artist that comes to my head that i hated 15 years ago that still remains very influential. Eddie Vedder had that into the wild sound track but i don't think hes that influential.

How old are you out of curiosity? I was under the impression you were in your early 20s.

**Janszoon** · 12-04-2012, 11:37 PM

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Jansz, does your way of viewing this translate into other mediums of art?

Would you argue that Ernest Hemingway was a terrible writer if you didn't like him?

Sure. Though comparing Jay-Z to Hemingway is pretty hilarious.

Sparky · 12-04-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes, you began with the conclusion you were trying to arrive at. It was a circular argument.

Your as guilty. You've told me to look into the future like every time

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How old are you out of curiosity? I was under the impression you were in your early 20s.

irrelevant really. im older than you, actually.

midnight rain · 12-04-2012, 11:39 PM

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Sure. Though comparing Jay-Z to Hemingway is pretty hilarious.

Didn't you compare Jay-Z to One Direction?

Anyways, I can't believe you'd think that. Hemingway's impact is huge and undeniable, regardless of personal taste.

**Janszoon** · 12-04-2012, 11:41 PM

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Your as guilty. You've told me to look into the future like every time

So, basically, what you're saying is you don't know what circular reasoning is. Got it.

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irrelevant really. im older than you, actually.

Riiiiight.

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