Of course but they aren't treated reverentially by other musicians who have been influenced by them. Would you disagree with me that influence and quality are usually correlated?

Hang on a second. Before I respond, I want to finish this line of thought. Can you give me the name of a current artist who you think is terrible?

janz speaking on tyler the creator's debut album (totally random):laughing:

Yeah, it was at the time. Good point.

But you said 2Pac is awful though when all you meant was his music is dull and bores you. You don't see a difference between me saying Jay-Z is awful and I can't stand him but he is decent at what he does?

Personal opinion isn't synonymous with fact. I was discussing The Smiths with someone the other day and they said any band in the world is better than them because he hates them. How does that work? If I hated Led Zep I'd just say I don't like them, I wouldn't say they are awful because that is obviously not true, awful would be someone like LMFAO.

One Direction

mmm from what i have heard from one direction, they arent terrible but i dont like them. But I dont think they are ment for listeners like us. They are aimed towards young girls who are like 10+ hahaha

Perhaps but I know college guys who listen to them

Okay. Now imagine if you will that One Direction continues being popular for the next 15 years—no increase in quality or anything, they just continue to be popular. Would you at that point decide that they're somehow good? If people told you that they were influential, would you suddenly regard them as worthwhile?

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