Jay-Z vs. Nas

SGR · 12-04-2012, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn

I don't know about flow. Biggie was a lot smoother than Jay-Z, but I can see what you mean by the syncopated rhymes. They did work firm on a light tone. As for slick... hmmm, well there are way too many rap artists who had a slick tongue, so narrowing it down to those two doesn't really say much. Otherwise, in terms of sound opposed to style, they really don't seem similar.

Biggie is probably the most overrated rap artist I'd say, by the way.

^Does Jay-Z get second most overrated by you?

**Goofle** · 12-04-2012, 09:58 AM

I think Tupac is more overrated than Biggie to be honest.

Surell · 12-04-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn

I don't know about flow. Biggie was a lot smoother than Jay-Z, but I can see what you mean by the syncopated rhymes. They did work firm on a light tone. As for slick... hmmm, well there are way too many rap artists who had a slick tongue, so narrowing it down to those two doesn't really say much. Otherwise, in terms of sound opposed to style, they really don't seem similar.

Biggie is probably the most overrated rap artist I'd say, by the way.

Biggie was smooth, but they both still have something slightly off-kilter in their delivery, Jay having it more so in his earlier days.

I find that they were especially slick, with one liners/punchlines that hit especially hard, either by a good build up or by being accentuated by their strange rhyme schemes.

Personally, I think Biggie is pretty untouchable, an artist that no one can really sound like (hence my argument for Jay). He was a better rapper than 2pac, his only competition back in his day, and his only fault in their comparison was his lack of topical/persona range that Pac had. But there aren't many rappers that have the idiosyncrasy in delivery, rhyming, flow, etc. nor with the same amount of lyrical power that BIG had - he could tell a killer story, had great punchlines, and all those other things i already said.

But don't take my word for it, I haven't dug enough through the "Golden Age" rappers and still haven't given L or Pun a good listen yet.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-04-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

I think Tupac is more overrated than Biggie to be honest.

What makes you say that?

Biggie had 2 albums and the 2nd wasn't that great imo. You get the odd person who thinks 2Pac iz da best evr!!1!1one! but he is rated as he should be, an important figure in Hip-Hop and one of the greats.

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Originally Posted by Surell

still haven't given L or Pun a good listen yet.

L was a genius. LODPAD is one of my favourite albums. The Archives and The Big Picture are both great too. Definitely give him a listen.

SGR · 12-04-2012, 02:32 PM

Did you guys realize today is Jay's birthday? Happy 43rd birthday Jay and thanks for giving the world so much great music!

**Goofle** · 12-04-2012, 03:26 PM

Biggie is so much better than Tupac, its not really debatable.

Rjinn · 12-04-2012, 04:30 PM

I don't think starting the Biggie vs Tupac debate is a good idea since it'll probably take over this topic. All I'm going to say is, I absolutely disagree that Biggie was better than Tupac.

**Janszoon** · 12-04-2012, 04:47 PM

Just to simplify things:

Biggie Smalls >>>>>> Nas >>>>>>>>>> Jay-Z > Tupac

Rjinn · 12-04-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Just to simplify things:

Biggie Smalls >>>>>> Nas >>>>>>>>>> Jay-Z > Tupac

You sux.

FrigginParadox · 12-04-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Biggie is so much better than Tupac, its not really debatable.

I think its quite debatable lol

Biggie had more hits radio wise that were still dope AF but he did not have as much material as Pac which kind of makes it hard to say. I love em both and to be honest I do like Biggie more but i think when it came down to lyricism Pac was better

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SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,327	Did you guys realize today is Jay's birthday? Happy 43rd birthday Jay and thanks for giving the world so much great music!