They're so corny I can't stand it. Basically all minneapolis rap sucks as a general rule.

What?! Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Brother Ali, Murs, I Self Divine, MF DOOM. Come on brother, that's a talent pool that's deeper than most.

Y U NO LIKE Atmosphere?

No love for POS either?

I just downloaded their doscography as it happens. Listening to Ipecac Neat when the album I am listening to finishes.

This. It's amazing to me how often I hear someone say something like in the OP when they're just basing it off whatever they hear on the radio.

It depends on what rap music you are speaking about. If you are speaking about Mainstream Rap, well it is a major ass joke. But if you are talking underground rap music, well it is still good. But American Rap Music was at its best back in the 1990s up the mid 2000s when it had rappers like Ice Cube, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Pimp C, and other rappers at the time. It had great songs. I love Ice Cube. His music is one of the best. Also don't forget about Nas, Nas is the best rapper of his age. Nas is so unique.

If you only listen to crap, crap is all you will hear. It's quite simple. Good rap and hip hop has mostly gone (or stayed) underground/independent.

A lot who have a disdain for rap/hip hop only look from the mainstream side. Because of the turn off they don't look any further. Steer away from the bling ego money sex crap and you may be surprised, like the artists above. It's like rock and any other genre..

Hilltop Hoods deserve a mention.

this discussion is played out if you've been talking about hip hop on the internet for a few months or more

and threads like it always end up the same.. 1 guy says "HIP HOP IS DYING! OMG!" and then a few Batmans come to the rescue just to say what they like, but no one even checks out the recommended artists.. it's a bunch of self massaging