Hip-Hop Knock out Cup

**Janszoon** · 08-31-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

See, my issue with calling Cube one of the greats is how far he has fallen off.
I guess if Pac or Biggie had lived they'd have probably done the same, yet nobody discounts their legacy because they didn't have a chance to tarnish their reputations.

Let me be the first for you then: I've never liked Pac. Not when he was alive and making music, and not now. Biggie is good, but nowhere near Ice Cube for me.

**Goofle** · 08-31-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Let me be the first for you then: I've never liked Pac. Not when he was alive and making music, and not now. Biggie is good, but nowhere near Ice Cube for me.

I like Biggie more than both because he was a superior rapper, but 2Pac has always been a slightly above average rapper who got lucky.

14232949 · 08-31-2012, 06:16 PM

Yeah, I don't rate the guy that much either, but what I mean is nobody got the chance to say he sold out, or his career fell off.
No one can say, Pac's not that great coz he only makes pop tracks now or coz he starred in some bad films.

**Goofle** · 08-31-2012, 06:35 PM

I agree with that point in general, but Biggie did "sell out" on many tracks. Lot of mainstream club bangers on both albums.

**Janszoon** · 08-31-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

Yeah, I don't rate the guy that much either, but what I mean is nobody got the chance to say he sold out, or his career fell off.
No one can say, Pac's not that great coz he only makes pop tracks now or coz he starred in some bad films.

You can't fall off if you start off sucking.

14232949 · 08-31-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

I agree with that point in general, but Biggie did "sell out" on many tracks. Lot of mainstream club bangers on both albums.

Yeah, although that was part of his gimmick.
Ready to Die and Life After Death are two of the most overrated albums of all time in my eyes.
So much filler!

~~[MERIT]~~ · 09-01-2012, 02:19 AM

Ice Cube - 4
Dr. Dre - 1

I could listen to The Chronic all day and not get tired of it man. Dre is way smoother than Cube ever wishes he could be.

Mister Jip · 09-01-2012, 10:09 AM

i vote for dr.dre

Ice cube is a better rapper..but Dre has been doing it since the mid 80's! he has managed to stay relivant and has been at the top of the game for a long long time he is one of the greatest producers ever..and also gave eminem, 50 cent, snoop dogg a platform...who has ice cube ever bought out..da lench mob :s

ice cube wouldnt even have a career if it wasnt for dre

**Janszoon** · 09-01-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Jip

i vote for dr.dre

Ice cube is a better rapper..but Dre has been doing it since the mid 80's! he has managed to stay relivant and has been at the top of the game for a long long time he is one of the greatest producers ever..and also gave eminem, 50 cent, snoop dogg a platform...who has ice cube ever bought out..gorilllaz in the mist :s

ice cube wouldnt even have a career if it wasnt for dre

How does that make Dre different? Ice Cube has been doing it since the mid 80s too.

Phantom Limb · 09-02-2012, 12:07 AM

I don't really like either of these guys :/

09-01-2012, 10:09 AM	#88 (permalink)
Mister Jip Heavy Thinker Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: London Posts: 152	i vote for dr.dre Ice cube is a better rapper..but Dre has been doing it since the mid 80's! he has managed to stay relivant and has been at the top of the game for a long long time he is one of the greatest producers ever..and also gave eminem, 50 cent, snoop dogg a platform...who has ice cube ever bought out..da lench mob :s ice cube wouldnt even have a career if it wasnt for dre Last edited by Mister Jip; 09-02-2012 at 09:49 AM.

08-31-2012, 06:16 PM	#83 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	Yeah, I don't rate the guy that much either, but what I mean is nobody got the chance to say he sold out, or his career fell off. No one can say, Pac's not that great coz he only makes pop tracks now or coz he starred in some bad films.

09-01-2012, 02:19 AM	#87 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	Ice Cube - 4 Dr. Dre - 1 I could listen to The Chronic all day and not get tired of it man. Dre is way smoother than Cube ever wishes he could be.