2pac!

**Goofle** · 04-18-2012, 04:32 PM

Anyone else quite sickened by the obvious money making spin?

14232949 · 04-18-2012, 04:37 PM

It doesn't bother me much Goofle, I've never been much of a Pac fan, I see him more as a commercialisation symbol upon his death, a little like Cobain was.

I mean, how many pieces of tacky Tupac merchandise have you seen? Purchased by people who are convinced that owning a poster, or a necklace with his name symbolises that they keep it 'real' in terms of the music they listen to.

~~James~~ · 04-18-2012, 04:50 PM

I don't even think he was that great in the first place. Biggie is better in every way.

14232949 · 04-18-2012, 04:55 PM

Tupac is probably the most over-hyped rapper of all time.
He didn't do anything to revolutionize hip-hop itself and a large part of his popularity was down to his feud with Biggie, which at the same time helped elevate hip-hop into the eye of the media, and not his music which for the most part was filler.

Biggie was in my opinion more technically gifted, but at the same time only released two albums, so it's hard to compare him to artists who have had longer careers.

midnight rain · 04-18-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I don't even think he was that great in the first place. Biggie is better in every way.

I've always preferred 2Pac tbh.

Astronomer · 04-19-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurora

The coachella hologram of Tupac was really impressive. He looked proper real, except at the feet obviously.

I actually found it really creepy.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez

Or he is a moonwalking master.

I thought that while watching it, too.

FETCHER. · 04-19-2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez

Or he is a moonwalking master.

ofcourse he is, it's Tupac!

anticipation · 04-19-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

Tupac is probably the most over-hyped rapper of all time.
He didn't do anything to revolutionize hip-hop itself and a large part of his popularity was down to his feud with Biggie, which at the same time helped elevate hip-hop into the eye of the media, and not his music which for the most part was filler.

Biggie was in my opinion more technically gifted, but at the same time only released two albums, so it's hard to compare him to artists who have had longer careers.

You're kidding me right? Pac's lyricism actually had a message. He spoke about real issues and about the racial and social tensions of life as an ideologically displaced youth growing up in one of the most oppressive societies known to man. Biggie isn't **** compared to Pac, all he did was rap about partying, blunts, and hoes. Big is the predecessor of Lil Wayne, commercialization, and candy rappers, Pac was a major factor in the rise of guys like Talib Kweli, the discussion of real life issues , and actual hip hop. Pac was popular way before the Biggie feud, which only played a small part in his overall career and driving message.

I just can't see how anyone can say that Big was somehow more significant in his contributions to hip hop than Pac.

Dr_Rez · 04-19-2012, 12:35 PM

Not to mention Biggz had what 2 short albums? Pac had sooo much more material and was featured in a gizload of other artists work. Really no comparison. And Pac gave Biggz advice on how it would be when he came up and got popular.

FRED HALE SR. · 04-19-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

You're kidding me right? Pac's lyricism actually had a message. He spoke about real issues and about the racial and social tensions of life as an ideologically displaced youth growing up in one of the most oppressive societies known to man. Biggie isn't **** compared to Pac, all he did was rap about partying, blunts, and hoes. Big is the predecessor of Lil Wayne, commercialization, and candy rappers, Pac was a major factor in the rise of guys like Talib Kweli, the discussion of real life issues , and actual hip hop. Pac was popular way before the Biggie feud, which only played a small part in his overall career and driving message.

I just can't see how anyone can say that Big was somehow more significant in his contributions to hip hop than Pac.

This is exactly the way i've always looked at this debate. I like Biggie like the next guy but he wasn't exactly rapping about anything revolutionary. I think Pac gets a raw deal most of the time, but I always found him to be pretty smooth with his flow and he did write some great stuff. It amazes me when Lil Waynes make it big and Dead Prez's don't even get heard.

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14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	It doesn't bother me much Goofle, I've never been much of a Pac fan, I see him more as a commercialisation symbol upon his death, a little like Cobain was. I mean, how many pieces of tacky Tupac merchandise have you seen? Purchased by people who are convinced that owning a poster, or a necklace with his name symbolises that they keep it 'real' in terms of the music they listen to.

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~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I don't even think he was that great in the first place. Biggie is better in every way.

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14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	Tupac is probably the most over-hyped rapper of all time. He didn't do anything to revolutionize hip-hop itself and a large part of his popularity was down to his feud with Biggie, which at the same time helped elevate hip-hop into the eye of the media, and not his music which for the most part was filler. Biggie was in my opinion more technically gifted, but at the same time only released two albums, so it's hard to compare him to artists who have had longer careers.