El-p

**Goofle** · 10-31-2012, 05:53 PM

Why wouldn't you expect it? Nice track.

Mrd00d · 11-01-2012, 08:36 PM

Yeah Ill Bill has worked with El-P before... I've just never liked Ill Bill. >.>

Engine · 11-01-2012, 09:04 PM

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Yeah Ill Bill has worked with El-P before... I've just never liked Ill Bill. >.>

What're you an Anti-Semite? Ill Bill is one of the greats.

**Janszoon** · 11-01-2012, 10:32 PM

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What're you an Anti-Semite? Ill Bill is one of the greats.

I'm not sold on Ill Bill either, though I do like his brother.

Engine · 11-01-2012, 10:47 PM

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I'm not sold on Ill Bill either, though I do like his brother.

You like Necro more than Ill Bill?
I dunno, man. Necro has some good songs but Ill Bill is a much better rapper, in my opinion. Sorry to hijack the EL-P thread but..

versus

Necro gets extra credit for sampling most of that song by The Zombies but rapskill-wise, he's far worse to me.

**Janszoon** · 11-01-2012, 11:04 PM

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You like Necro more than Ill Bill?
I dunno, man. Necro has some good songs but Ill Bill is a much better rapper, in my opinion. Sorry to hijack the EL-P thread but..

versus

Necro gets extra credit for sampling most of that song by The Zombies but rapskill-wise, he's far worse to me.

Okay, first of all, that song is from Necro's worst album. Secondly, you're right that Ill Bill has better skills on the mic, and lyrics that at least aspire to be better, but there's just something about him that doesn't click with me (though I do like the track you just posted). Necro's the exact reverse imo. He's ridiculous and kind of a one trick pony, but somehow it just works, like here:

Engine · 11-01-2012, 11:34 PM

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Okay, first of all, that song is from Necro's worst album. Secondly, you're right that Ill Bill has better skills on the mic, and lyrics that at least aspire to be better, but there's just something about him that doesn't click with me (though I do like the track you just posted). Necro's the exact reverse imo. He's ridiculous and kind of a one trick pony, but somehow it just works

I bet the thing you like most about that song is the synth work though, and it is good.
But it's hard for me to appreciate Necro because he seems to have jumped on 1) big brother's success and 2) shock value. To me he sounds like an intellectually stunted (stupid) version of Ill Bill with a higher, reedier, more monotone voice.

**Janszoon** · 11-01-2012, 11:59 PM

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I bet the thing you like most about that song is the synth work though, and it is good.
But it's hard for me to appreciate Necro because he seems to have jumped on 1) big brother's success and 2) shock value. To me he sounds like an intellectually stunted (stupid) version of Ill Bill with a higher, reedier, more monotone voice.

The synth work? No. What I like most is the interplay between the horror movie string loops and his rapping.

I can totally understand why you'd think of him as stupid, monotone and deliberately shocking because that's exactly how I felt when I first listened to him. But the weird thing for me was, even though I thought that, I realized I kept wanting to listen to him. After a while I started to perceive him as something like the aural equivalent of a Troma movie and realized he actually seemed to be a pretty bright guy simply playing the role of a dumb guy. His lyrics, though never particularly deep, are actually surprisingly articulate and erudite, in a Troma-ish way, and he consistently surprises me with what he samples—stuff you'd think would be outside his frame of reference, like Ani DiFranco. As far as the monotone rapping goes, all I can say is it's grown on me. I actually like how basic it sounds and I think it suits the music pretty well.

Engine · 11-02-2012, 12:31 AM

I'll concede that Necro is not stupid, and that me calling him that wasn't very smart. Beyond that, maybe one day.
He'll probably always live in the shadow of his brother though. I wonder how much EL-P likes Necro.

**Goofle** · 11-02-2012, 08:17 AM

Necro > Ill Bill

Ill Bill's cameo in "Delorian" has stained my image of him irreversibly.

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Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	I'll concede that Necro is not stupid, and that me calling him that wasn't very smart. Beyond that, maybe one day. He'll probably always live in the shadow of his brother though. I wonder how much EL-P likes Necro. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.