Black Star

Engine · 02-24-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

He's had those religious beliefs for a while though. The way i figure, anything is better then christianity on the beat.

All of those songs are supposed material for the next album, which is being produced predominately by madlib (though it looks like his lil bro oh no is getting a piece of the action).

I've always had much appreciation for mos def. People slammed tru magic back in the day for sluggishly rapping over other beats, but i find that to be an "industry standard"(as well as smooth-transitioning mixtapes

) today.

He's always been able to sound current. I found the ecstatic to be underrated, mos was doing a lot of his own singing vocals, something that mainstream poppers like drake were considered original for. The songs blended seamlessly, and featured a lot of the same arabic sounding samples that were fun on future adventures of lord quas and oh no matireal.

Talib on the other hand is very, very boring. He was so on the original blackstar, he is on solo matireal and it sounds like nothing is changing for this anticipated release. The guy sounds like he's reading straight out a black history text book and has no swag.

I don't care about anybody's religious beliefs but I was really impressed with that N****s In Poorest song and was disappointed to hear it end with that dumbass line.

As for Talib Kweli, he wasn't really any less 'black history' driven than Mos Def was on the 1st Black Star album. The whole album is meant to be that way (look up Black Star if you don't know its historical significance). I think his parts on that album are excellent.

And I really like Kweli's Reflection Eternal album. He and Hi-Tek's production work really well together. I don't much care for other Kweli albums though. Also, I only really love Mos Def's Black on Both Sides album as far as his solo stuff.

And since I'm feeling lazy I hope somebody will do my research for me and tell me if that N*****s In Poorest is from the upcoming album? Is it Madlib? What are those other songs Phantom Limb posted from? None of them are nearly as interesting.

Sparky · 02-24-2012, 12:29 AM

All 3 of those songs are solid to me. The last of the 3 being great to my ears. Even though it's repeated in many songs, i love that fluttery voice sample in the last song. Really soulful stuff.
And yes there produced by madlib i ****ing said that
And talib kweli is rigid. They touch on similiar themes, but the way the present it is very different. Mos Def has always been funner and more engaging.

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talib
RE

EFinition, turning your play into a tragedy
Exhibit level degree on the mic, passionately
Niggas is sweet so I bet if I bit I'd get a cavity
Living to get high, you ain't flyer than gravity
We die hard like the battery thrown in the back of me by the mad MC
Who think imitation is the highest form of flattery, actually
Don't be mad at me, I had to be the one to break it to you
You get kicked into obscurity like judo -- no, Menudo
Cause You pseudo, trying to compete with reality like Xerox
Towards destruction you spiraling like hairlocks, wipe them teardrops
Chasing stars in your eyes, playing games with your lives
Now the wives is widows soaking up pillows, weeping like willows
Still more blacks is dying, cause they live and they trying
"How to Make a Slave" by Willie Lynch is still applying
Regardless, the Mos is one of my closest partners
Rocking ever since before Prince was called The Artist
Rocking before Funkmaster Flex was rocking Starter
When 'Pac and Biggie was still cool, before they was martyrs
Life or death, if I'm choosing with every breath I'm enhancing
Stop, there comes a time when you can't run

oh brother
[Mos Def]
What, lyrically handsome, call collect a king's ransom
Jams I write soon become the ghetto anthem
Way out like Bruce Wayne's mansion, move like a phantom
You'll talk about me to your grandsons
Cats who claiming they hard be mad ***s
So I run through 'em like flood water through sandbags
Competition is mad, what I got, they can't have
Sinking they ship, like Moby Dick to Ahab
Son I'm way past the minimum, entering millennium
My raps will hold a gat to your back like Palestinians
Ancient Abyssinia, sure to hold the Gideon
Official b-boy gentlemen, long term, never the interim
Born inside the winter wind, day after December 10
These simpletons they mentioned in the synonym for feminine
Sweeter than some cinnamon, the Danish rings by Entenmann's
Rush up on adrenaline, they get they asses sent to them
(Gentlemen) you got a tenement, well then assemble it!
Leave your unit trembling like herds of moving elephant
Intelligent embellishment, follow for your element
From Flatbush settlement, skin possesses melanin
Hotter than tales of crack peddling, making em WOOP
Like blue gelatin, swing like Duke Ellington
Broader than Barrington Levy, believe me
The hot Apache red who burn down your chief teepee
You see me?

There, im sober, but i picked two prime examples in the difference of styles. And mos def kicks this dude talib to the curb real quick

Engine · 02-24-2012, 12:38 AM

I agree that Mos Def is far better than but I still like Kweli. And the 3 Phantom Limb songs are fine, just not all that exciting.
Who's gonna do the research I asked for? I need some solid data before I get excited about a new Black Star album.

Sparky · 02-24-2012, 12:40 AM

I already did the research but im not going to share it in this thread i know that

Engine · 02-24-2012, 12:44 AM

You're a lot nicer when you're not sober. Fine, I'll look it up myself if need be.

Sparky · 02-24-2012, 12:48 AM

good luck the information is super underground type shit

**Goofle** · 02-24-2012, 06:24 AM

Just go on Google.

Engine · 02-24-2012, 10:06 AM

Well...I've never really used the google before and it's kind of intimidating.
But if nobody here will tell me what's what I guess I'll need to venture out

Phantom Limb · 02-24-2012, 11:54 AM

I'm pretty sure Niggas in Poorest isn't gonna be on the new Black Star album. What I heard is that it's from an album that Yasiin is putting together where he raps over super mainstream stuff and tries to make it better, though Niggas in Poorest wasn't that great imo.

Sparky · 02-25-2012, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

Damn i'm watching this again right now and he seriously kills this. this is crazy. I would be buggin out if i was there

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and if you can’t relax homie nobody care/
Life is exact that don’t make it fair/
I don’t apologize for none of my advantages/
I thank the good Lord everyday for having ‘em/
for moreover they make life doper for the truest black star that never been on Oprah/

02-24-2012, 12:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	I agree that Mos Def is far better than but I still like Kweli. And the 3 Phantom Limb songs are fine, just not all that exciting. Who's gonna do the research I asked for? I need some solid data before I get excited about a new Black Star album. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

02-24-2012, 12:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	You're a lot nicer when you're not sober. Fine, I'll look it up myself if need be. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

02-24-2012, 10:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	Well...I've never really used the google before and it's kind of intimidating. But if nobody here will tell me what's what I guess I'll need to venture out __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

02-24-2012, 12:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I already did the research but im not going to share it in this thread i know that

02-24-2012, 12:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	good luck the information is super underground type shit