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Old 03-10-2015, 12:36 PM   #881 (permalink)
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Ninetales got it right though. Maybe not on the first 4-5 tracks per se, because "Runaway" is probably the best song, and I dig that last track, but yeah, a few joints are way overlong and unnecessary (you know it's bad when I think Pusha's on a bad song ("So Appalled"), and I can't stand "Hell of a Life", and then "Blame Game" is just dumb). On these facts alone I could never consider this album a classic. I also don't really see the influence it wields, I mean it's mostly soul samples and a pseudo storyline, overall it's a pretty standard Kanye album.
I really like all three of those songs. 'Runaway' and 'Devil In A New Dress' are my favourites on the album, and I don't like 'Monster' much so I disagree with these sentiments.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:01 PM   #882 (permalink)
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^ those are definitely the best tracks, and while "Monster" is fine, I actually most enjoy Kanye on that, and found not only the beat but Nicki Minaj's verse (lyrically) underwhelming. Yeah, she basically laid out all her vocal talents on the song, but, as I usually find myself feeling, her lyrics just didn't impress. Probably one of her better verses, top 10 and what have you, but I'm just not a huge fan of her lyrically.
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Minaj just grates on me.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:37 PM   #884 (permalink)
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i don't like female rappers in general
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nicki minaj's part of monster is the best part of the whole album ok bye
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i don't like female rappers in general
Lauryn Hill? Only one I rate much. Azealia Banks released a great album last year though.
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i was going to make an exception for lauryn hill. her rapping on the fugees is the only female rap that i have enjoyed tbh

i think it has to do with what i was saying in the other thread... rap is sort of a man's sport. there are talented female mc's that i still can't really listen to cause their girly voice makes their hard posturing look silly

but lauryn hill has sort of a deep voice for a woman and manages to pull it off in a way that neither turns her into a sex object like lil kim/foxy/nicki minaj nor takes away her femininity/sex appeal

but to be those sex object type female rappers just seem like they belong dancing in the videos instead of rapping
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I liked Foxy Brown..

Her hot spot video was hot <3

I agree on Lauren hill as well, her rap delivery is pretty good
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I like Lauryn Hill as a rapper a lot but her album was a bit too RnB for my tastes. And a bit corny.

Eve was very good.

Not American but Lady Leshurr is excellent as well.

Agree with Ninetails too.
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I don't care for Kanye West, or what he did at the Grammys, which is one of the reasons why I never watch it.
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