Kanye West

**Janszoon** · 03-08-2015, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Post some bars up that you find impressive.. I was just trying to give examples of what I consider to be clever wordplay.

The use of holding cells in the second quote is pretty great to me. It's not easy to come up with double meanings, at least not for me.

My comment wasn't intended to be a critique. I literally just wasn't sure what you were trying to communicate with your post.

Most lyrics out there, in any genre, aren't very impressive pieces of literature because they're a secondary aspect of the medium of music, written by people who couldn't hack it in a literary medium. I'd need some time to think of some that I find impressive.

DwnWthVwls · 03-08-2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

My comment wasn't intended to be a critique. I literally just wasn't sure what you were trying to communicate with your post.

Most lyrics out there, in any genre, aren't very impressive pieces of literature because they're a secondary aspect of the medium of music, written by people who couldn't hack it in a literary medium. I'd need some time to think of some that I find impressive.

Yeh, I could see that.

**Janszoon** · 03-08-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

If you like Kanye's (collective) production but not necessarily his rapping, this might be of interest to you: DatPiff

Then again, Jon Connor may not do it for you either. You'd probably have to settle for the Yeezus Christmas parody album at that point.

I liked the group that put together Yeezus but "his" other albums really don't do it for me so I'm not sure how much this would do it for me. From the couple samples I just listened to, Jon Connor definitely seems like a better than Kanye, but he doesn't seem all that distinct to me. My opinion could certainly change though, it wouldn't be the first time.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

No, I'm saying his production and rapping are bad but he's apparently good at getting talented people in a room together. So what I'd love to see is him contributing nothing to "his" albums except being sort of a project coordinator. I mean that's almost what he is already, aside from the fact that he insists on spitting a few terrible verses over the tracks. Remove that and the collective that's left might release something pretty good.

statik selektah does this except he does make the beats and honestly i listen to that **** way more than i listen to any kanye albums

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-08-2015, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

My comment wasn't intended to be a critique. I literally just wasn't sure what you were trying to communicate with your post.

Most lyrics out there, in any genre, aren't very impressive pieces of literature because they're a secondary aspect of the medium of music, written by people who couldn't hack it in a literary medium. I'd need some time to think of some that I find impressive.

except prodigy of mobb deep

would read his lyrics as poetry over a sonnet-writing shakespeare sissy anyday

Justthefacts · 03-09-2015, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

My comment wasn't intended to be a critique. I literally just wasn't sure what you were trying to communicate with your post.

Most lyrics out there, in any genre, aren't very impressive pieces of literature because they're a secondary aspect of the medium of music, written by people who couldn't hack it in a literary medium. I'd need some time to think of some that I find impressive.

Good thing Nick Cave, Bob Dylan, Tupac, or Tom Waits don't fall in that "most lyrics" category.

**Janszoon** · 03-09-2015, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Good thing Nick Cave, Bob Dylan, Tupac, or Tom Waits don't fall in that "most lyrics" category.

I think Nick Cave, when he's on, is on par with actual literature. Tom Waits too, to a certain extent. Bob Dylan has never really done it for me lyrically but I probably need to give a closer listen to his songs before I can make a judgement. Tupac doesn't even belong in the discussion.

DwnWthVwls · 03-09-2015, 12:31 AM

I was talking to JWB about this the other night: I think Sage Francis is a great writer, and he's on of my favorite artists.

Justthefacts · 03-09-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I think Nick Cave, when he's on, is on par with actual literature. Tom Waits too, to a certain extent. Bob Dylan has never really done it for me lyrically but I probably need to give a closer listen to his songs before I can make a judgement. Tupac doesn't even belong in the discussion.

Okay maybe not Tupac.

~~James~~ · 03-09-2015, 03:21 AM

I think a lot of rappers have lyrics worthy of the term 'literature'. Earl Sweatshirt is better at assonance than a lot of contemporary poets.

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~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I think a lot of rappers have lyrics worthy of the term 'literature'. Earl Sweatshirt is better at assonance than a lot of contemporary poets.