Dr Dre
 

He is the original G..... someone I know called him a n00b. He must not know what n00b is, a newbie, Dre has been in the game for a long time

Yes, someone you know is dumb.

There's a rumor going around that he's not a real doctor.

I was hoping to hear "Psycho" off his upcoming Detox album that 50 Cent said he was going to release via his Twitter, but still hasn't happened yet.

Hes not a real doctor? I believe everything i see in the doctor peper commercials!

He's not a real doctor? THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

The headphones he made are sooo overpriced

They have amazing bass and are completely worth it

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Umm....Have you ever listened on Beats before? They definitely outperform both skullcandies and several other headphones.
I have listened on a few pairs before, and they sounds much crisper than the Sony's that I use for recording and producing.

Man dre is the man, blackhippy to death...if you aint on that get on sun!

I thoroughly always enjoyed some Dr. Dre. And his headphones are far superior, however overpriced. A little let down on some of his newer songs, though, but that isn't very shocking anymore..

The wait for Detox has been ridiculous. I think it originally was to be released in like '04 or '05. Just put the damn thing out already. Are you sure about the ghost producers? I didn't know he did that. I always respected Dre for his west coast style beats and always hated on him for his rapping which isn't very good in my opinion. Snoop and Dre are the two most over hyped rappers of all-time in my opinion. Neither has done much really worthwhile in a very long time. Snoop sold out a long time ago.

I don't hate on the sellouts though. I used to, but I can't hate on guys like Cube making kids movies and stuff. At the end of the day, if I was being offered a shitload of money to do a 30 second commercial or make a movie, you're damn right I'd do it. I think we'd all rather be paid and labelled a sellout than poor and respected.

Well Technically your friend is correct, Dr. DRE is a NOOB.

Newb= someone who is new to something
NOOB= someone who has been doing something for a period of time and should be getting better but still sucks donkey B@lls

so yes Dr.DRE is a NOOB. He's no real G. He's a middle class douche. now Eazy E was the only G from NWA.

I'm loving the synergy between hood and nerd culture here

Things I learned from this thread: One's musical ability and social class are apparently inversely related.

Lulz, I'm a white Metalhead from Canada, who likes the occasional gangster rap. So i'm glad I could entertain for a moment.

Word up G

"Dre was one of my heros in the music industry. If he's not down for his homeboys, I don't wanna be a part of him or around him." - Tupac Shakur

The greatest thing to ever happen to rap.

Lulz. Eazy-E was the master faker of the group, he didn't even write his own material.

Can we drop the term 'NOOB' from discussion also, it's quite childish.

On the subject of Dr Dre, I don't feel it's right to base his work upon a pair of headphones he put his name to.
He was a pioneering producer in west-coast rap, and has helped produce a lot of memorable songs.
As a rapper, he was above average, but by no means great.

Dre Beats are pretty good, but there not in the same league as a top of the range pair of Bose or Shure headphones! IMO.

As for Dre being a doctor, I do believe he actually has a PHD in something or another... which would make him a doctor in that sense.

As for his musical ability, he's pretty meh. I don't know how true the claim he uses ghost producers is, it's a well known fact that Scott Storch and Dre collaborated on Still Dre, he is credited with being a songwriter along with Mel-Man. So I don't know if I would define that as him being a ghostwriter on the track, but rather just another composer on it? I'll leave that up to you to decide.
And its wildly reported he uses ghostwriters for his rhymes. I remember Royce Da 5'9" in particular did a fair bit of work on 2001.

But he was the one who bought their studio time with crack money. He wrote his lyrics later anyway.

Btw, from what i've heard, Dre beats are extremely overrated.

I love my Beats. Best headphones I have ever owned, and despite being big (I have the Studio HD Beats, in red) they still look sleek in design. There are no other over ear cans I'd ever dream of wearing in public, because they generally look shíte and dorky. They might not sound as good as other brands (having never owned Bose or Sennheisers I cant judge) but there is no-one that could convince me that for the happiness Dre Beats have brought me they arent worth the money, and anyone who slates them without using them day to day is a jealous dick.

Dre's music wasn't too bad either.

He needs to lay off the Steroids though

http://sosickwithit.com/wp-content/u...2/dre-vmas.jpg

I've only heard good things about the headphones, but I'll never experience them first hand, just don't have the money.

Yeah, he wrote his solo material during the last year of his life, but it was ****.
NWA went **** after Ice Cube walked anyway.

Okay, Eazy-E assembled the group, but that doesn't make him a good rapper, in any way, shape or form.

Not the headphones, his actual beats for artists. I haven't listened to enough Eazy to say whether his solo was bad or not, but i've heard it was fine.

Oh, my bad lol.
Well, I've personally always regarded Dre's beats to be better than his rapping, but that being said, neither are exactly ground breaking.
And, there has always been the question of how much he actually contributes towards producing tracks, and how much is ghost produced.

Eazy was the weakest MC of NWA by a country mile, his solo material isn't worth checking out, I'd recommend Ice Cube & MC Ren though.

Lol, he is massive ain't he!

Personally, I'd buy better sound quality over looks anyday, but I am a producer and a sound engineering student, so that kinda thing is important to me.

Just because he works with other producers doesn't automatically mean he has ghost producers and he just steals their work.

Yes, with 2001 he worked with Scott Storch and this other guy.

Over the years , he still has made some pretty good beats for Em, The Game, 50 Cent and Busta Rhymes.

[QUOTE=djchameleon;1101155]Just because he works with other producers doesn't automatically mean he has ghost producers and he just steals their work.QUOTE]

I agree, theres is a clear distinction between collaboration and ghost production, even if the collaborater isn't directly acknowledged. Though I'm sure that most producers, Scott Storch included that worked with Dre would've been credited in the album sleeve notes... I can't say for certain because I've never owned a physical copy of 2001.

Yeah, they were given credit the other guy I couldn't remember is Mel-Man. I had to look it up.

Scott Storch got writing credits as well.

There is nothing wrong with co-producing and collaborating with others.

I couldn't disagree more. I think ITS ON 187 KILLA and EAZY DUZ IT, are both classic rap albums similar in vain to Amerikkkas most wanted and The Chronic. I like all of the aforementioned rappers and think their skill and versality is very equal if anything. And Eazy wasn't even gonna rap he was there for bankroll until he laid a track down waiting for Cube and Wren to show up. He was so skilled and good they had to put him on the record. Weakest by a country mile? Solo material not worth checking out? You lost me.

I definitely disagree with you about his beats. He was one of THE most influential producers of the 90s.

They still aren't that great though, RZA is definitely better.

I couldn't disagree more. I find RZA pretty dull most of the time honestly.

(I get a feeling this is gonna get cyclic suuuper quick)

What i like about RZA is how dark and atmospheric he can make his beats (much of 36 Chambers and some of his Ghostface work), not to mention action packed. Dre's got a couple of smooth beats but RZA's are much more animated. I should listen to more Dre, but the beats on the Slim Shady LP were really boring and uninspiring to me, and his Snoop Dogg stuff is alright from what i remember from it; he gave the Game some pretty good beats, but still, RZA's have a lot more character to me.

Eh, The Slim Shady LP isn't exactly the high water mark of Dre's career. Doggystyle, The Chronic and The Chronic 2001 are where it's at with him.

Well I have one of those down, i've been meaning to get the Chronic since i started listening to rap, so i indeed suck.

90% of the beats dre has produced bang as hard as you can possibly imagine. RZA's stuff isn't for clubs and whatever, it's really chilled and just rolls along.

Not always, there are some pretty vibrant RZA beats out there. Case in point:

Why is rza being compared? DJ premiere has been around as long and he's easily better.


Madlib is def the best doe

Madlib Yes! I'd agree there just for Madvillain (sine he's what really made it great). Premiere is someone i still need to check out. Who did he produce with?