Deconstructing Matious
 

Okay, we are going to use this thread to find out why Matious hates most mainstream artists.

Let's start with the first two.

Drake and Kid Cudi.

Go!

i'm really really sorry djchameleon but i've searched google already and can't find any artist named matious. and whose drake and kid cudi? are they artists too?

i'm not sure if i understand this thread. apologies.

it's okay

This thread is mostly for the guy in my signature

google drake and kid cudi but I just want to find out why the guy in my signature hates them.

I'm sure he has specific reasons.

ah i see. so he's a musicbanter member. well, i'm not familiar with drake or kid cudi or jadakiss or any of those mentioned in your signature but perhaps they're some names of insects or something that he really hated. or i could be wrong.

There really is no purpose for this thread.

oh but there is, it serves the purpose of satisfying my curiosity and he said he was fine with me creating a thread such as this one

i'd actually like to see what matious has to say here...

I like matious, who cares if he doesnt like Drake or Cudi (I'm not particularly keen on them either tbh, where's my thread?)

Besides, he likes Waka Flocka and Lil B so he is extra cool in my books.

Because Drake and Kid Cudi are retarded as ****. If you like Kid Cudi you should be shot/

How about we make a thread called "Why Does Everyone Like This Mainstream Bull****"?

Kid Cudi
Rap for suburban kids who think weed is "edgy" and like the romantic idea of a artist who is addicted to it, and that it's responsible him putting out such introspective material. I really couldn't give a **** about the struggles "mr rager" has to go through. Many casual hip hop listeners can't really discern that rapping about emotions doesn't automatically mean it's good music.

His sound is light and radio-friendly because he sounds like alt rock if a evil cpu made it



"I KEEP RUNNNING ON BACK TO YOU--UUUU!!!"

Your mom doesn't like all that talk of "bitches and guns" but this, this is actual music with substance

Drake
Take Lil Wayne and Kanye West, mix them together. Filter out any individuality, originality, personality or creativity. Pour it into one of those big plastic novelty cups with the advertising for "Step up 2 the streets 2" or w/e, and that overpriced bull**** in the cup is my not-quite-there metaphor for drake.

The dude might as well not even be a real person. He follows lil wayne coat tails so ****ing closely if it wasn't for the fact that he occasionally sings his own hook (im on one!) they would be the same artist.

You know how people blame nirvana for the creation of nickelback and bush and all that watered down bull****? I blame Lil Wayne for drake, tyga, nicki, big sean, and all this watered down, bland cornball punchline rap.

Drake isn't a musician as much as he is a driven entertainer, who knows how to play the part of a trendy rapper. It really isn't that ****ing hard with the help of a studio. Childish Gambino is just as good, any run-of-the mill comedian can write these punchlines,you just got to look the part.

Rick Ross and Yelawolf next?

rick ross






he has 1 song.

that 9 piece song is a summer hit, people are blasting it from their shitty car systems like crazy.








yep he only has 1 song right?


I do agree with your analysis of Drake though but Kid Cudi not so much. It sounded like you were talking about Wiz Khalifa not Kid Cudi.

I swear like his last 5 singles are exactly the same. I just clicked some random rick ross songs just now to post and they all sounded the same.

Naw it was definitely targeted at cudi. "the lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night" was his first popular chorus, weed was his trademark.

Yeah, from Day and Nite but if you actually listened to the album in full, there was a cool story behind the entire album the whole man on the moon concept

I don't even know why I'm defending Rick Ross anyways lol. I don't like him that much. I just like that most recent song "play your part"

plus I like it for everyone else in the song besides him. Wale, Meek Mill and Chester singing the hook.

We can both agree his latest album was trash right?
kid cudi that is

omfg yes!

He only had three good tracks on it and I'm not counting "Erase Me"

The whole darker theme that he was going for I didn't like at all.

Hopefully he goes in a different direction with Wizard.

While I'm not hating on you djchameleon. You like some crappy music.

yes I hear that quite often and just because I like some crappy music doesn't mean that's all I listen to.

I listen to some pretty good things as well.

you guys really think that? i thought that MOTMII was the better one :(....

why is that?

Drake is the same every time he hits the booth while still jacking Lil Wayne's general rap style. The only difference is he's a little more clean cut.

Kid Cudi i'm not too familiar with, but i did like Day n Nite. Butt fuck him.

I've actually agreed with everything Matious has said. I think Kanye West and Lil John suck also just my opinion. Rap in general has been on a decline for me, there are some gems out there but its getting harder to sift through the dog **** to get to the diamonds.

Matious rants are great but I'm not really looking forward to Sage Francis and Dessa, as I have a feeling what his reasoning will be and while it may be true to an extent, I don't think it's a bad thing at all.

Reading that you clearly have not spent any time listening to Drake's music or actually learning anything about his artistry or him as a person.

And no he is not the "same artist" as Wayne at all...

But I guess because he is known and is a platinum selling artist you wont ever try to appreciate him or even accept that your whole opinion of him and of many other artists is based off stuff you pulled out of your own ass.

I happen to agree with Matious on that one, but my mind could be changed.

Yea, he's not the "same artist", he's pretty much the same artist. There's nothing to appreciate in Lil Wayne or Drake raps.

The albums go platinum because hard ass little kids/teens buy it, even though their rapping is whack...

Maybe you didn't read Matious' post correctly, but I agree with what he said and lol'd at what you said. I doubt I'm alone.


Edit: I mean, who decided that the kid in the wheelchair from Degrassi needed to become a mainstream rap star? He had/has no skills to speak of. It's like a record exec. picked him up for his image and molded him into part of the money making machine. I know his rhymes and wordplay are awful, but whats worse is everybody wants to excuse it. "Hello, you're a rapper. Your job is to be good at rhyme and wordplay. Why are you READING a 'freestyle' over the radio?" That was enough for me... reading a pre-written rap and telling people on the radio he's freestyling it.

QFT, only more on the line of the new Young Money rappers.

Matious, after you comment on Yelawolf then we will move on to two more.

All these people agreeing with me is awkard, not used to this ****.

Yelawolf
He annunciates every ****ing syllable so much. That's just a little personal pet peeve tho lol.

A lot of his music seems to be car focused, or at least labeled as such-pop the trunk, daddy's lambo, trunk muzic, box chevy. So far he has shown a knack for making gucci-inspired trunk related white trash music, but not much else.

Having Drama (fantasy factory) produce seemed like the perfect move to cement his skater-boi fanbase.Speaking of which, producing can't be too hard these days if that ****er can do it..

Im going to throw the race card into the mix and say if this guy was black he would go completely unnoticed. The monolithic lex luger/gucci bass heavy sound is something hundreds of new artists use every month.

Honestly though, I don't out right hate this guy and would say he has promise if he wasn't already 30-something years old..
With the help of slim shady he will make music everybody except me will love.

Exactly. Being on the same label doesn't make them the same. They have completely different styles, cadence, delivery and content.

Someone's occupation has no bearing on their musical ability, or lack thereof.

There are 2 types of freestyles. On can be pre-written and used to demonstrate skill, not touching on any subject in particular. This was the ORIGINAL idea behind a freestyle, that it is free of any certain style or boundaries. The other type of freestyle is "off-the-top," which is what freestyle seems to have become synonomous with as of late.

more cohesive and overall more interesting to me song and production wise. i liked the first for it's spacey feel, but this one has more to offer with that. as for lyrics, Cudi's always been a meh kind of rapper.

no they don't


Sure it does

It's actually the other way around. As of late it has become acceptable to be obviously memorized or written, in the 90's most artists when put in the spotlight would go "off the dome"

They sound absolutely nothing alike. Just because they share the same label and do some collaborations does not relegate them to sounding alike.

No, it doesn't. How does portraying a paraplegic teenager on a teen soap opera have any bearing on his musical ability?

Either definition of "freestyle" is correct, which is what I was telling Mrd00d, regardless of prevalence.

You don't have ears or a brain that is able to make connections between artists if you don't hear the similarities. I could understand if you said the inflexions in his voice are different, but to say they sound "absolutely nothing alike" is something i think most drake fans will even disagree with.
Well, in the case of my argument (he sucks and is fake) it goes to show that any actor or entertainer, with the help of a top tier studio can be a rapper. Imagine Eddie Murphy's "my girl wants to party all the time" except it's drake and the standard for rap is so terrible that people don't think his music is a joke.

They "sound alike" in the same way that all rappers "sound alike," if that's what you're getting at. I obviously have a functioning brain and ears, no need to make insinuating insults. They rap about different topics, their voices sound nothing alike and their timing is different. What is your justification for their likeness? That they're both black rappers, or that they both suck in your opinion?

I don't like Drake either, but his career as an actor has nothing to do with it. It may have opened more doors for him, but he would still be a sh*tty rapper either way.

I like Drake, and Mac Miller (who you haven't gotten to yet), but I pretty much agree with everything you've said, matious. Question: What's your opinion on Khalifa?