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I took that song to be about how the Reagan generation is all about drugs to disconnect but that don't think anything of it. I thought of the song as from the perspective of someone talking about all the drugs they do because it's "cool". Like... 8 doobies to the face... **** that, I can take it. I have a high tolerance.

I don't think it was meant to be a hugely deep metaphor but I thought it was effective.

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blastingas10

True. I don't care for her at all. But Kanye pulled a super douche bag move. Let's not forget, "George Bush doesn't care about black people".

This cracks me up. 9/11 wasn't the worst moment of G.W.'s presidency, Kanye was.


Matt Lauer Interview with Kanye West on Today Show (full version) - YouTube

Maybe Kanye wants a president like this: Fast forward to 2:00


Dave Chappelle about Clinton and Bush - YouTube

Sparky

Wow, your extremely typical.

Your way too emotionally invested in your perception of rap artists personality. Your not judging them on their musical contributions, but a stigma you have against their lifestyle choices.

Of course a lot of rap music is about sex, drugs and money. A lot of media in general is.

What is this moronic statement trying to insinuate?

So what if kanye is a douchebag? Do you actually care? or are you so absorbed by media coverage that you can't differentiate your own opinion from the other generic talking heads.

At least Kanye is true to himself. You never have to question his authenticity. I imagine most of the artists you perceive to be "moral", or have good values are really no different then kanye, they are just more concerned with public perception.

Goofle

To be fair, anyone who makes the following songs is all right by me:









He could hunt deserted babies for all I care.

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First of all, he wasn't saying that he had something against rappers "lifestyle choices", he said he didn't like listening to rap music about sex, drugs, and money, things that rappers most exaggerate to the extreme. You think all rappers live how they rap? Two words: Rick Ross.

I for one only put up with that bullshit if it has a banging beat.

Also, the rappers themselves aren't making that great of a musical contribution, though you may believe otherwise. That would be the producer, or whoever provides the backing MUSIC. Without a producer, a rapper would only be a poet, and if you judged every rapper by their lyrical content only, there are plenty that would crumble (ASAP Rocky, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, Lil B, Schoolboy Q, etc.).

Definitely. But I don't get your point, does that mean you have to like it?

Most people in the media love Kanye and got over the taylor swift incident like 3 years ago. So I'd say blastingas is doing a good job of forming his own opinion. Sometimes people form opinions of bands regardless of how they sound. I'll never like Joy Division no matter how cool the "scene" was 30 years ago unlike some people . Besides, there are millions of people who dick ride yeezy, why does it matter if a few think he's a douche (which he absolutely is)?

Kanye thinks he's the best thing that ever happened to music, that's hardly being true to himself.

What exactly are you basing this on? There are very few stars who I would rate as more full of themselves than Kanye, and I can't even think of another incident like the Taylor Swift grammy moment so it seems very unlikely to me that this statement is correct.

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blastingas10

I hate the media. What's your point? And I don't agree with their lifestyle choices, but I'm not judging them because of that. I'm judging them based on their musical contributions, which are weak, especially lyric wise.

You want to talk to me about being judgemental? You judged that statement as "moronic" without even understanding it. It was a joke. What I meant by it is that from my experience with smoking weed, and knowing many African-Americans who smoke, they very rarely use the word "doobies". They smoke blunts, and nothing but blunts. While I'm sure that he means "blunts" when he says "doobies", it' just funny because I don't hear African-Americans use that word very often, and that's why I said what I did.

Yes, I do care about the douche-bag actions he's made.



Thank you. Nicely said. Most rappers I know would be a joke if they were considered poets, especially if you weighed their "poetry" against the poetry of a true poet.

Sparky

It's still referencing lifestyle choices. It's pandering to an audience who idolize that particular lifestyle.


your so enlightening. I'm not going to argue rapper vs producer.
It means it's unfair to dismiss one particular medium or genre for something that is promoted in nearly all of them.

I was referencing the media hype from that particular time. It may not be news now, but it went on for far too long.



You have some divine source of information, these are truly mind blowing statements.

I like Joy Division for the music.

I'm glad Kanye is openly confrontational. I like that a major mainstream pop artist risked jeopardizing his career to honestly express his sentiments. Especially when it involved being critical of the worst U.S. president ever.

Your right. Kanye West has an ego.

I'm saying many people who share the same amount of fame as Kanye are obviously not the people they are perceived to be. Kanye chooses to be himself even though he constantly gets ridiculed for it. I don't share the same beliefs as Kanye, but i can sympathize with being way too drunk (as in the taylor swift incident) or being frustrated with the current government, even without being able to fully articulate why (the GWB incident).

Was Jim Morrison a douchebag?

Sparky

Not Kanye, he's a very recognized producer.
Hey I know this asian guy who doesn't speak any chinese.
too much in my opinion.


Kanye is still a well established producer first, and rapper second.

Goofle

To get back on topic...

Kendrick seems to be working with Dr. Dre on Detox which seems extremely likely to come out in 2012 (Dre even appearded during one of Kendrick's shows to say "Detox is coming" or some sh*t).

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^Yeah that track is super dope. You should check out the version with Busta Rhymes on it.

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