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duga 02-17-2012 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1155728)
I got that as a trend throughout, but you would have to explain how that ties in with the lyric blastings posted.

I took that song to be about how the Reagan generation is all about drugs to disconnect but that don't think anything of it. I thought of the song as from the perspective of someone talking about all the drugs they do because it's "cool". Like... 8 doobies to the face... **** that, I can take it. I have a high tolerance.

I don't think it was meant to be a hugely deep metaphor but I thought it was effective.

blastingas10 02-17-2012 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 1155767)
oh no, someone in the music industry is a jerk. will everyone PLEASE think of the children?!!? D:

Taylor Swift's music is bland city, btw. your opinion on Kanye is your opinion on Kanye, so i'll leave it at that, but I will say that Kanye is one of my favorite artists.

........

but anyway, I thought Section.80 was one of my favorite albums of 2011. (O)verly (D)edicated i wasn't as much into, but that was mainly for the beats. on both albums, it's hard to deny Kendricks raw talent and rapping ability. definitely one of the best rappers today imo.

but yeah, putting up songs just cause
True. I don't care for her at all. But Kanye pulled a super douche bag move. Let's not forget, "George Bush doesn't care about black people".

This cracks me up. 9/11 wasn't the worst moment of G.W.'s presidency, Kanye was. :laughing:


Matt Lauer Interview with Kanye West on Today Show (full version) - YouTube

Maybe Kanye wants a president like this: Fast forward to 2:00


Dave Chappelle about Clinton and Bush - YouTube

:rofl:

Sparky 02-17-2012 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155732)
I'm not trying to hate or disrespect rap or hip-hop, or anyone who likes it. I just honestly don't see much value in it. There is some that I like. But I think a lot of it is the same. A lot of it is about drugs and sex and money and anything that ties in with those subjects. Not all, though. There is some rap that I can respect and appreciate. I just have trouble seeing the musical and poetic value in the majority of it.
Wow, your extremely typical.

Your way too emotionally invested in your perception of rap artists personality. Your not judging them on their musical contributions, but a stigma you have against their lifestyle choices.

Of course a lot of rap music is about sex, drugs and money. A lot of media in general is.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155735)
: But I guess the fact that a black man is saying "doobies" instead of "blunts" is quite creative. :laughing:
What is this moronic statement trying to insinuate?

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155835)
True. I don't care for her at all. But Kanye pulled a super douche bag move. Let's not forget, "George Bush doesn't care about black people".
So what if kanye is a douchebag? Do you actually care? or are you so absorbed by media coverage that you can't differentiate your own opinion from the other generic talking heads.

At least Kanye is true to himself. You never have to question his authenticity. I imagine most of the artists you perceive to be "moral", or have good values are really no different then kanye, they are just more concerned with public perception.

Goofle 02-17-2012 12:39 PM
To be fair, anyone who makes the following songs is all right by me:









He could hunt deserted babies for all I care.

Phantom Limb 02-17-2012 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
Wow, your extremely typical.

Your way too emotionally invested in your perception of rap artists personality. Your not judging them on their musical contributions, but a stigma you have against their lifestyle choices.
First of all, he wasn't saying that he had something against rappers "lifestyle choices", he said he didn't like listening to rap music about sex, drugs, and money, things that rappers most exaggerate to the extreme. You think all rappers live how they rap? Two words: Rick Ross.

I for one only put up with that bullshit if it has a banging beat.

Also, the rappers themselves aren't making that great of a musical contribution, though you may believe otherwise. That would be the producer, or whoever provides the backing MUSIC. Without a producer, a rapper would only be a poet, and if you judged every rapper by their lyrical content only, there are plenty that would crumble (ASAP Rocky, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, Lil B, Schoolboy Q, etc.).

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
Of course a lot of rap music is about sex, drugs and money. A lot of media in general is.
Definitely. But I don't get your point, does that mean you have to like it?

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
So what if kanye is a douchebag? Do you actually care? or are you so absorbed by media coverage that you can't differentiate your own opinion from the other generic talking heads.
Most people in the media love Kanye and got over the taylor swift incident like 3 years ago. So I'd say blastingas is doing a good job of forming his own opinion. Sometimes people form opinions of bands regardless of how they sound. I'll never like Joy Division no matter how cool the "scene" was 30 years ago unlike some people :rolleyes:. Besides, there are millions of people who dick ride yeezy, why does it matter if a few think he's a douche (which he absolutely is)?

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
At least Kanye is true to himself. You never have to question his authenticity.
Kanye thinks he's the best thing that ever happened to music, that's hardly being true to himself.

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
I imagine most of the artists you perceive to be "moral", or have good values are really no different then kanye, they are just more concerned with public perception.
What exactly are you basing this on? There are very few stars who I would rate as more full of themselves than Kanye, and I can't even think of another incident like the Taylor Swift grammy moment so it seems very unlikely to me that this statement is correct.

blastingas10 02-17-2012 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1155839)
Wow, your extremely typical.

Your way too emotionally invested in your perception of rap artists personality. Your not judging them on their musical contributions, but a stigma you have against their lifestyle choices.

Of course a lot of rap music is about sex, drugs and money. A lot of media in general is.


What is this moronic statement trying to insinuate?



So what if kanye is a douchebag? Do you actually care? or are you so absorbed by media coverage that you can't differentiate your own opinion from the other generic talking heads.

At least Kanye is true to himself. You never have to question his authenticity. I imagine most of the artists you perceive to be "moral", or have good values are really no different then kanye, they are just more concerned with public perception.
I hate the media. What's your point? And I don't agree with their lifestyle choices, but I'm not judging them because of that. I'm judging them based on their musical contributions, which are weak, especially lyric wise.

You want to talk to me about being judgemental? :laughing: You judged that statement as "moronic" without even understanding it. It was a joke. What I meant by it is that from my experience with smoking weed, and knowing many African-Americans who smoke, they very rarely use the word "doobies". They smoke blunts, and nothing but blunts. While I'm sure that he means "blunts" when he says "doobies", it' just funny because I don't hear African-Americans use that word very often, and that's why I said what I did.

Yes, I do care about the douche-bag actions he's made.



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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1155882)
First of all, he wasn't saying that he had something against rappers "lifestyle choices", he said he didn't like listening to rap music about sex, drugs, and money, things that rappers most exaggerate to the extreme. You think all rappers live how they rap? Two words: Rick Ross.

I for one only put up with that bullshit if it has a banging beat.

Also, the rappers themselves aren't making that great of a musical contribution, though you may believe otherwise. That would be the producer, or whoever provides the backing MUSIC. Without a producer, a rapper would only be a poet, and if you judged every rapper by their lyrical content only, there are plenty that would crumble (ASAP Rocky, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, Lil B, Schoolboy Q, etc.).



Definitely. But I don't get your point, does that mean you have to like it?



Most people in the media love Kanye and got over the taylor swift incident like 3 years ago. So I'd say blastingas is doing a good job of forming his own opinion. Sometimes people form opinions of bands regardless of how they sound. I'll never like Joy Division no matter how cool the "scene" was 30 years ago unlike some people :rolleyes:. Besides, there are millions of people who dick ride yeezy, why does it matter if a few think he's a douche (which he absolutely is)?



Kanye thinks he's the best thing that ever happened to music, that's hardly being true to himself.



What exactly are you basing this on? There are very few stars who I would rate as more full of themselves than Kanye, and I can't even think of another incident like the Taylor Swift grammy moment so it seems very unlikely to me that this statement is correct.
Thank you. Nicely said. Most rappers I know would be a joke if they were considered poets, especially if you weighed their "poetry" against the poetry of a true poet.

Sparky 02-17-2012 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1155882)
First of all, he wasn't saying that he had something against rappers "lifestyle choices", he said he didn't like listening to rap music about sex, drugs, and money, things that rappers most exaggerate to the extreme. You think all rappers live how they rap? Two words: Rick Ross.
It's still referencing lifestyle choices. It's pandering to an audience who idolize that particular lifestyle.


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Also, the rappers themselves aren't making that great of a musical contribution, though you may believe otherwise. That would be the producer, or whoever provides the backing MUSIC. Without a producer, a rapper would only be a poet, and if you judged every rapper by their lyrical content only, there are plenty that would crumble (ASAP Rocky, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, Lil B, Schoolboy Q, etc.).
your so enlightening. I'm not going to argue rapper vs producer.
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Definitely. But I don't get your point, does that mean you have to like it?
It means it's unfair to dismiss one particular medium or genre for something that is promoted in nearly all of them.

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Most people in the media love Kanye and got over the taylor swift incident like 3 years ago.
I was referencing the media hype from that particular time. It may not be news now, but it went on for far too long.



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Sometimes people form opinions of bands regardless of how they sound. I'll never like Joy Division no matter how cool the "scene" was 30 years ago unlike some people :rolleyes:. Besides, there are millions of people who dick ride yeezy, why does it matter if a few think he's a douche (which he absolutely is)?
You have some divine source of information, these are truly mind blowing statements.

I like Joy Division for the music.

I'm glad Kanye is openly confrontational. I like that a major mainstream pop artist risked jeopardizing his career to honestly express his sentiments. Especially when it involved being critical of the worst U.S. president ever.

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Kanye thinks he's the best thing that ever happened to music, that's hardly being true to himself.
Your right. Kanye West has an ego.

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What exactly are you basing this on? There are very few stars who I would rate as more full of themselves than Kanye, and I can't even think of another incident like the Taylor Swift grammy moment so it seems very unlikely to me that this statement is correct.
I'm saying many people who share the same amount of fame as Kanye are obviously not the people they are perceived to be. Kanye chooses to be himself even though he constantly gets ridiculed for it. I don't share the same beliefs as Kanye, but i can sympathize with being way too drunk (as in the taylor swift incident) or being frustrated with the current government, even without being able to fully articulate why (the GWB incident).

Was Jim Morrison a douchebag?

Sparky 02-17-2012 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1155887)
I hate the media. What's your point? And I don't agree with their lifestyle choices, but I'm not judging them because of that. I'm judging them based on their musical contributions, which are weak, especially lyric wise.
Not Kanye, he's a very recognized producer.
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You want to talk to me about being judgemental? :laughing: You judged that statement as "moronic" without even understanding it. It was a joke. What I meant by it is that from my experience with smoking weed, and knowing many African-Americans who smoke, they very rarely use the word "doobies". They smoke blunts, and nothing but blunts. While I'm sure that he means "blunts" when he says "doobies", it' just funny because I don't hear African-Americans use that word very often, and that's why I said what I did
Hey I know this asian guy who doesn't speak any chinese.
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Yes, I do care about the douche-bag actions he's made.
too much in my opinion.


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Thank you. Nicely said. Most rappers I know would be a joke if they were considered poets, especially if you weighed their "poetry" against the poetry of a true poet.
Kanye is still a well established producer first, and rapper second.

Goofle 02-29-2012 05:18 AM
To get back on topic...

Kendrick seems to be working with Dr. Dre on Detox which seems extremely likely to come out in 2012 (Dre even appearded during one of Kendrick's shows to say "Detox is coming" or some sh*t).

Phantom Limb 03-20-2012 10:34 AM
^Yeah that track is super dope. You should check out the version with Busta Rhymes on it.

Goofle 03-20-2012 10:44 AM
^ I didn't like the version I heard, maybe it was a crappy remix though.

Phantom Limb 03-20-2012 10:48 AM
Idk maybe, the version I have sounds exactly the same, it just has an extra Busta Rhymes verse.

Goofle 03-20-2012 12:06 PM
I mean the added Busta verse was not mixed in well on the version I heard. You seen them perform it live? Look that up on youtube, killer.

Goofle 04-02-2012 08:51 AM
Kendrick Lamar feat D. Dre "The Recipe" (prod. by Scoop Deville)

Thom Yorke 06-19-2012 12:40 PM
Finally got around to listening to Section.80. It was good but I wasn't feeling a lot of the hooks.

**** Your Ethnicity was definitely the highlight of the album for me, although I liked the second half of the album a lot more than the first (Rigamortus, Kush & Corinthians, Hiiipower, Keisha's Song, etc.).

Also, I don't understand why A.D.H.D. gets so much love; it's pretty weak in my opinion.

Goofle 06-19-2012 12:49 PM
I really didn't connect with HiiPower personally. Not sure why.

14232949 06-19-2012 01:11 PM
My favourites from the album were **** Your Ethnicity, No Make Up and HiiPower.
Probably because they were the catchiest and thus stick in my memory the most.

Goofle 06-20-2012 02:16 AM
The first two tracks are so damn good, but I have gotten to the point where I just skip a few songs.

"Chapter Six"
"The Spiteful Chant" (Peugeot advert samples this song? Or is it just the same sample?)
"Chapter Ten"
"Tammy’s Song (Her Evils)" (not always)

I have heard them enough, they now bore me.

llllllllllllllllllll 06-20-2012 11:00 PM
Section.80 is one of m favorite albums of the 2010's. He has a unique delivery and is one of the best living rappers. **** Your Ethnicity, Hol'up, Rigamortus, Hiiipower, A.D.H.D., Blow My High, Keisha's Song, Spiteful Chant, Ronald Reagan Era and Kush & Corinthians are all great.
His 2009 EP, The Kendrick Lamar EP is good to.
this kid has a gift

14232949 06-21-2012 03:59 AM
^ I think it's a bit early to say he's one of the best living rappers.
Dude does have a tonne of potential, but we'll see what he does now.
He can't just release one really good album and sit back and admire it.
Imagine a world where Nas had done that after Illmatic, or Jigga after The Blueprint.

The Keasby Knight 06-25-2012 09:00 PM
[QUOTE=Sparky;1072900] Not incredibly original, but really solid rapping

Whatcha talking about? His flow is incredibly unique.

14232949 08-23-2012 08:43 AM


if this is an indication as to what the new albums going to be like then I don't think we're getting another Section 8.0 but more rather another Tha Carter :(

LoathsomePete 08-23-2012 09:38 AM
I'll reserve proper judgement until I hear the album in it's entirety, but I definitely believe he hammered out for more mainstream appeal, but I knew that the moment he was signed to Aftermath.

duga 08-23-2012 09:54 AM
Yeah, there's no doubt about that. As far as rap goes, though, sometimes I like more mainstream sounding tunes. Especially since he's pretty good at it.

TheyCallThisRap? 09-05-2012 08:11 PM
Referring back to A.D.H.D....

When he goes F*** that, it's made to sound more like F thought, which when you have ADHD happens. You can't keep track of your thoughts, what you were doing, going etc. It plays into the song. ADHD also directly relates to Section 80 and the whole "80's babies" theme it has including Reagan, drugs etc.

His new stuff is more main stream, but none the less I paid my $100 for two tickets to see him this fall and will pick up his album first day it comes out. Even on Swimming pools there are underlying lyrics that mean more than what they appear at face value.

14232949 10-17-2012 04:34 PM
It's leaked!!!

Goofle 10-17-2012 04:37 PM
You know the deal...

Goofle 10-17-2012 05:21 PM
Listening now. The first track is a little naff (based on beat alone). His lyrics seem pretty solid.

duotone 10-17-2012 06:24 PM
Was just listening to his Wanna Be Heard track, I love that Black Milk sample to pieces.

Phantom Limb 10-17-2012 06:53 PM
Just starting GKMC and it is VERY promising. This might be the album I've been waiting for.

Thom Yorke 10-17-2012 07:18 PM
Just downloaded and listened to 7089 thinking it was his new album (actually pretty impressed, some really nice production on there).

I thought Section. 80 was alright but over-hyped and I don't like that Swimming Pools song, so I'm not expecting to like this that much, but we'll see. Back in a bit, downloading...

Goofle 10-17-2012 08:30 PM
I do not like this album all that much...

Some of the worst hooks I have ever heard. "Sing About Me" FUKING HELL MAN...

Sparky 10-18-2012 09:53 AM
kenderick lamar just spontaneously became "the best rapper" as of late for no apparent reason.

He's good and can rap fast but he's not like that cool

Goofle 10-18-2012 10:20 AM
Only to people who like slightly edgy Hip Hop but can't be arsed making much effort.

Sparky 10-18-2012 11:10 AM
I'm listening to it now and actually like it so far, i might have been premature

Goofle 10-18-2012 11:39 AM
He is passable on it, but It's got a lot of trashy beats and hooks.

Thom Yorke 10-18-2012 01:56 PM
Kind of meh. I agree with Goofle about the hooks, but I've felt that way about everything else I've heard from him anyways. That Peer Pressure song stood out to me as my favourite track.

Phantom Limb 10-18-2012 03:29 PM
I think it's pretty good. I think I like it more than Section.80, but I'm gonna have to listen to it a few more times just to be sure.

Goofle 10-18-2012 04:45 PM
"Good Kid" was a nice track. I liked another, probably "Peer Pressure". Poor album from Kendrick, but still above average in the grand scheme of things.

LoathsomePete 10-18-2012 06:40 PM
Goofle, do you think that this is a result of getting signed to a major label, or another case of an artist getting over hyped, or a little of both?


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