kendrick lamar

Phantom Limb · 10-24-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

I like it. It's good album. I still think Kendrick gets a lot of unwarranted praise. He falls into a lot of hip hop tropes that his contemporaries (jay electronica, yassim bey, even ab soul) have avoided. When i hear Kendrick make grandiose statements, i never get the sense he's astute enough to actually back them up.

The production is superb and that's why i like listen to it. Especially the dre stuff, and backseat freestyle goes super hard. I even like swimming pools as a single.

I just can't shake the impression that his praise has more to do with the state of the genre itself,rather than him being exceptional.

Super on point.

Surell · 10-24-2012, 01:59 PM

i amount most praise to the state of the genre.

Sparky · 10-24-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell

i amount most praise to the state of the genre.

See but other releases-jay electronica, shabazz, etc, weren't just good because of the state of the genre, they were just really, really good.

Kenderick isn't at all new or stands out based on his own range as a rapper, he just does it better than the state of the genre, meaning, he does it better than rick ross, school boy q or the other quasi pop/gangster rappers. He encompasses the persona of being intelligent, affluent and conscious (even though he in no way is) more so than the others in his same class.

DirtyScopeBeatz · 10-24-2012, 03:42 PM

Kendrick Lamar is a good artist.
He still has alot to prove though.
There is nothing that he has done yet to wow me.
I would say if he is around in five years cool.

**Frownland** · 10-24-2012, 04:00 PM

Saw him do a song (it's either called Drunk or Swimming Pools) on Conan and it was decent. It definitely had its moments but it didn't blow me away or anything. I liked the somewhat minimal beats that aren't too overwhelming, but his emceeing is alright, nothing past that.

DirtyPop · 10-24-2012, 04:15 PM

It's all about the last track on the album, 'Compton' featuring Dr. Dre & produced by Just Blaze! Think Jay-z & Alicia Keys collab only about Compton instead of New York.....EPIC

Surell · 10-25-2012, 12:00 PM

Swimming Pool sounds like an A$AP song, doesn't it?

Missed this earlier:

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky

See but other releases-jay electronica, shabazz, etc, weren't just good because of the state of the genre, they were just really, really good.

yeah, but Shabazz didn't blow over nearly as well as some other albums- as we've discussed, it was below Drake's Take Care on Pitchfork's Year's Best list, and was entirely ignored by Rolling Stone, and hit the bottom half of the MOJO list (who'd i call a little more credible than the other two sources). But that's very little good press for how great an album Black Up was. Electronica i haven't heard so much, but i did dig him on Curren$y's "the Day." Maybe i'm being more cynical than i deserve, but as far as major press goes, Hip Hop never looks too great. Ever since A$AP slightly disappointed (he's coming back for me since i saw how good "Acid Drip" was), i've been a little weary of new rap to be honest. Oh, and KRIT- I listened to him, and he was straight too, but mainly for the beats, personally. It was only one listen, so maybe i should try again, but anyway.

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Kenderick isn't at all new or stands out based on his own range as a rapper, he just does it better than the state of the genre, meaning, he does it better than rick ross, school boy q or the other quasi pop/gangster rappers. He encompasses the persona of being intelligent, affluent and conscious (even though he in no way is) more so than the others in his same class.

Sure, sure. I'm just lazy, i'll listen soon. But i've been diggin on more allegorical rap, like Shabazz with it's afrofuturistic ****, or even, to my analysis at least, OF. I'll listen though.

14232949 · 10-25-2012, 05:39 PM

And when have we ever based the state of hip-hop on what hipster publications and the John Lennon cock-sucking rolling stone had to say?

Look at hip-hop now as opposed to say; 2008?
It's in a much better shape now, it doesn't matter to me about album of the year lists or any of that pretentious sh/t.
It's about music I like. And I like 2012 hip-hop.

**Goofle** · 10-26-2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

And when have we ever based the state of hip-hop on what hipster publications and the John Lennon cock-sucking rolling stone had to say?

Look at hip-hop now as opposed to say; 2008?
It's in a much better shape now, it doesn't matter to me about album of the year lists or any of that pretentious sh/t.
It's about music I like. And I like 2012 hip-hop.

I assume they were talking about mainstream Hip Hop, which is what this album is.

Surell · 10-26-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

And when have we ever based the state of hip-hop on what hipster publications and the John Lennon cock-sucking rolling stone had to say?

Since they were the leading publications on music, which has been for awhile. Even strictly Hip Hop magazines don't have much good hip hop to give press to, in their world. But i know such a rugged individualist as yourself won't care a lick about them either.

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Look at hip-hop now as opposed to say; 2008?
It's in a much better shape now, it doesn't matter to me about album of the year lists or any of that pretentious sh/t.
It's about music I like. And I like 2012 hip-hop.

2008 was when Wayne was still pretty good, so the mainstream still had that hope. I think we've just numbed our expectations since the mainstream had its recession or whatever. Now when something alright comes along that's slightly different, we say, wowzers.

10-24-2012, 03:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
DirtyScopeBeatz Groupie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: New York Posts: 13	Kendrick Lamar is a good artist. He still has alot to prove though. There is nothing that he has done yet to wow me. I would say if he is around in five years cool. __________________ Most people like to rave about the success of rich folks. I like to rave about the success of poor folks. Nothing makes me happier than to see the little guys succeed.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Saw him do a song (it's either called Drunk or Swimming Pools) on Conan and it was decent. It definitely had its moments but it didn't blow me away or anything. I liked the somewhat minimal beats that aren't too overwhelming, but his emceeing is alright, nothing past that. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-24-2012, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
DirtyPop Groupie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 17	It's all about the last track on the album, 'Compton' featuring Dr. Dre & produced by Just Blaze! Think Jay-z & Alicia Keys collab only about Compton instead of New York.....EPIC

10-25-2012, 05:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	And when have we ever based the state of hip-hop on what hipster publications and the John Lennon cock-sucking rolling stone had to say? Look at hip-hop now as opposed to say; 2008? It's in a much better shape now, it doesn't matter to me about album of the year lists or any of that pretentious sh/t. It's about music I like. And I like 2012 hip-hop.