Lil B

Engine · 09-13-2011, 09:57 PM

Kinda like how rappers "exploit" vinyl records, cassette tapes, CDs, talent scouts, record labels, MP3s, the listening public, thug life, and anybody who gives them money/attention?
I don't see what the internet has to do with Lil B's music career. They both just happen to exist at the same time. This is the digital age, yo.

Sparky · 09-13-2011, 10:15 PM

I'd say with the case of lil b the internet did play a more crucial role.

Do you think his career would have gotten off the ground if he had been saying "bitch suck my dick cuz ur a bitch" in the subway tunnels? Or reciting "bitch suck my dick u bitch face dick ****" at the local coffee shop. Would anybody take home a copy of "bitch mob respect the bitch" and actually listen to it before the internet?

I'd say it was post-internet porn, desensitized, internet junkie fanboys that got lil b to where he is now

Engine · 09-13-2011, 10:22 PM

Subway Tunnels? Yes.
Coffee shops? No.

The internet is just another one of these venues.
Believe it or not, people have been desensitized to this stuff since way before the internet.

Sparky · 09-13-2011, 10:31 PM

I might have to disagree with you here.

Lets only look at the time periods since modern mediums have been created, like tv, radio, etc have existed. Obviously people were pretty disensitized during like viking times or gladiators or whenever people were getting ripped apart by lions for amusement.

But never has they're been so much instantaneous sexual gratification and the ability to watch beastiality, 2girlsonecup, baseball bats, or whatever regardless of your culture or location. I'd say lil b's music is a direct result of this, you can watch or listen to lil b in any form you like. You can either here him being extremely masochistic, extremely homosexual, extremeley introspective or weirdly positive, and it usually is all in one song.

I swear to god listening to his music is like surfing the web.

I don't know what my point is, but it's in that block of text somewhere goddamit

Engine · 09-13-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

I might have to disagree with you here.

Lets only look at the time periods since modern mediums have been created, like tv, radio, etc have existed. Obviously people were pretty disensitized during like viking times or gladiators or whenever people were getting ripped apart by lions for amusement.

But never has they're been so much instantaneous sexual gratification and the ability to watch beastiality, 2girlsonecup, baseball bats, or whatever regardless of your culture or location. I'd say lil b's music is a direct result of this, you can watch or listen to lil b in any form you likI would e.

Yes, let's.
I'm talking about the late 1980s / early 1990s on the east coast, USA. At the time that's where I lived.
I don't know how ancient Romans may have viewed Lil B, but I certainly wouldn't have been shocked by Lil B if I heard his music in the subway tunnels. Amused for sure. But not shocked.

Sparky · 09-13-2011, 11:43 PM

I'm primarily arguing in favor of the internet being the reason for Lil B's success. I still say the internet serves as a good form of desensitization,especially to young privileged youth, who will never get to experience the "cultural insight" of the 1980's east coast lively hood.

DevonWilliams · 09-14-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by matious

Pick any topic lil b has at least 5 songs abut it. I think he's great at exploiting the internet, don't no if he's trying to send that message through subversive humour

The subversive humour is mainly the hook to attract attention. If you actually look into a lot of his work, you'll find exploiting the internet, and the effect the internet has on today's age is an extremely repetitive subject. He's not who he portraits himself to be, in fact, he's an extremely intelligent individual. He's the pioneer of what he does, and I'm sure he'll have a profound effect on the future of rap, possibly the future of Internet itself

DevonWilliams · 09-14-2011, 12:13 AM

In other news, his Black Flame mixtape was released today

Sparky · 09-14-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DevonWilliams

The subversive humour is mainly the hook to attract attention. If you actually look into a lot of his work, you'll find exploiting the internet, and the effect the internet has on today's age is an extremely repetitive subject. He's not who he portraits himself to be, in fact, he's an extremely intelligent individual. He's the pioneer of what he does, and I'm sure he'll have a profound effect on the future of rap, possibly the future of Internet itself

yo bro i've been saying this for the duration of this whole ****ing thread don't be schooling me

jk

Black Flame should be interesting, i like red flame and evil red flame, but really thought his last mixtape was crap. I could kinda see what he was going for, it just wasn't enjoyable to listen to.

Engine · 09-17-2011, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matious

I'm primarily arguing in favor of the internet being the reason for Lil B's success. I still say the internet serves as a good form of desensitization,especially to young privileged youth, who will never get to experience the "cultural insight" of the 1980's east coast lively hood.

Of course the internet desensitizes people to seeing bizarre shit.
I still don't think you need to have seen 2girlsandacup to appreciate Lil B though. Is he really all that weird?
And .. Lil B's set to 'effect the future of the internet'? .. the fuck? I don't know what internet you guys are looking at but the one I see is always changing for uncountable reasons and Lil B's not a major factor.

09-13-2011, 09:57 PM	#111 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	Kinda like how rappers "exploit" vinyl records, cassette tapes, CDs, talent scouts, record labels, MP3s, the listening public, thug life, and anybody who gives them money/attention? I don't see what the internet has to do with Lil B's music career. They both just happen to exist at the same time. This is the digital age, yo. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

09-13-2011, 10:22 PM	#113 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	Subway Tunnels? Yes. Coffee shops? No. The internet is just another one of these venues. Believe it or not, people have been desensitized to this stuff since way before the internet. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

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Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I'm primarily arguing in favor of the internet being the reason for Lil B's success. I still say the internet serves as a good form of desensitization,especially to young privileged youth, who will never get to experience the "cultural insight" of the 1980's east coast lively hood. Last edited by Sparky; 09-13-2011 at 11:51 PM.

09-14-2011, 12:13 AM	#118 (permalink)
DevonWilliams Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 110	In other news, his Black Flame mixtape was released today __________________ The hood is a lie

09-13-2011, 10:15 PM	#112 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I'd say with the case of lil b the internet did play a more crucial role. Do you think his career would have gotten off the ground if he had been saying "bitch suck my dick cuz ur a bitch" in the subway tunnels? Or reciting "bitch suck my dick u bitch face dick ****" at the local coffee shop. Would anybody take home a copy of "bitch mob respect the bitch" and actually listen to it before the internet? I'd say it was post-internet porn, desensitized, internet junkie fanboys that got lil b to where he is now

09-13-2011, 10:31 PM	#114 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I might have to disagree with you here. Lets only look at the time periods since modern mediums have been created, like tv, radio, etc have existed. Obviously people were pretty disensitized during like viking times or gladiators or whenever people were getting ripped apart by lions for amusement. But never has they're been so much instantaneous sexual gratification and the ability to watch beastiality, 2girlsonecup, baseball bats, or whatever regardless of your culture or location. I'd say lil b's music is a direct result of this, you can watch or listen to lil b in any form you like. You can either here him being extremely masochistic, extremely homosexual, extremeley introspective or weirdly positive, and it usually is all in one song. I swear to god listening to his music is like surfing the web. I don't know what my point is, but it's in that block of text somewhere goddamit