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Mojo 03-16-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1019373)
He didn't say that. He said that Japan's earthquake overshadowed Nate Dogg's death.

My post was not in response to the OP. It was in response to the exchange between vega and anticipation.

I think I see what DJ was saying and the point he was trying to make and I think, and hope, that it's just one person misunderstanding the other.

If an individual I was a fan of happened to pass away at the same time as a disaster like the one in Japan, it's not like I shouldn't be allowed to affected by this the way I would on any other day or at any other time.

However DJ, the thing you are overlooking is the use of the word overshadowed. If you read your OP it seems to read like "It's a shame that this guys death was overshadowed by the disaster in Japan." Logically the disaster in Japan has to overshadow the death of any one individual, whoever it is. People die every day, it's much less of a natural or frequent occurence for over a thousand people and entire villages, towns and cities to be destroyed. The way you worded it seems to suggest you are actually comparing the two.

Anyway, this thread probably shouldn't become a flame war so try to keep it on topic.

Howard the Duck 03-16-2011 07:59 PM

British toaster Smiley Culture died today.

That, for me, totally overshadows all the people who have died since the DAWN OF HOMOSAPIENS

Quote:

REGGAE MUSICIAN Smiley Culture who scored two chart hits in the Eighties has died following an incident with police.

The Police Office singer, real name David Emmanuel, is believed to have stabbed himself after officers raided his home in Warlingham, Surrey, earlier today.

He was due to face trial after being charged with conspiracy to supply cocaine in September last year alongside four others.

A spokesman for the Independent Police Complaints Commission confirmed they were now investigating a “death following police contact”.

The 47-year-old, born and raised in south London, rose to fame as a DJ with the Saxon Studio sound system.

He released his first single Cockney Translation in 1984 but was best known for Police Officer which was a Top Twenty hit and earned him two performances on BBC music show Top of the Pops.

Emmanuel had claimed the song, a light-hearted take on police attitudes to black people at the time, was based on his own experience of being let off by officers when caught with a spliff after recognising who he was.

The Tulse Hill schoolboy later signed to major record label Polydor but failed to match his earlier success.

Ricky Belgrave, chairman of the British Association of Static Systems (BASS), called Smiley’s death a “sad loss for British reggae”.

He said: “I worked with Smiley many times over the years, so news of his death is very sad to hear. Smiley was a lively personality and was in that first wave of homegrown British reggae talent.

“He was one of the first to cross over into the mainstream alongside people like Maxi Priest and enjoyed chart success. On behalf of Bass, we offer our condolences to his family at this tragic time.”

Jester 03-16-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1019275)
Yes, I'm serious

How is my comment insensitive? I think you are just thinking of it from a numbers aspect. I'm not saying that it's devastating because the guy was a celebrity. A homeless man could have died today and I would still feel sorry for the loss of life.

I don't hold the loss of one life over or below someone else. They are all equally sad situations imo.

Dude, shut up. I hope you go around feeling sad everyday, then. Because people die every single day.

Look, I don't care about your comment about Japan overshadowing Nate Dogg's death, honestly, because... I don't know, it just doesn't bother me. (I guess it's my lack of involvement, unfortunately...) But I can see how it would others, because yeah, you kind of are saying his one life was of equivalent value to however many thousand people died in the Japan tragedy.

I hate to break it to you, but some people are better than other people. People are not really equal. It would be an insult to great minds to say that they're just as good as a dolt.

So yes, in great numbers of death, certainly, good people were lost.

And it would be unfair to say that the sum of all those people's character/potential/etc. are of the exact same importance as Nate Dogg; plus, there's a lot more suffering over the Japan incident than Nate Dogg's death. (Well, if you included all the negatives and overall bad people, maybe a balance or even a negative figure could be deduced, and Nate Dogg could be considered to have been "better"... but, nevermind that. Quantity probably wins in this case.)

But, I don't care. Looking over this, it's likely that I'm ridiculously simplifying the relevance of human existence in a very subjective manner, but who cares, it's food for thought.

crash_override 03-16-2011 11:08 PM

You people are all ridiculous. Anyone who crashes a legitimate music related thread that is posted in the proper forum with garbage like, "OMG how can you mention Nate Dogg's death at a time like this.. blah, blah blah". Take your humanitarian sh*t to CNN. This isn't Wolf Blitzer, it's a music forum, on which there is already a thread to discuss this poop-stain of a media frenzy. You guys have just spent the last 4 pages of a music related thread trying to derail a perfectly relevant talking point. If you care so damn much about the disaster in Japan, then go over there and dig bodies out yourselves. I know most of you are pathetic losers, but even you must have something better to do than accost someone for posting music related topics on a music forum, god f*cking forbid.

Oh yeah, fuck Japan.

djchameleon 03-17-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1019575)
Dude, shut up. I hope you go around feeling sad everyday, then. Because people die every single day.

Look, I don't care about your comment about Japan overshadowing Nate Dogg's death, honestly, because... I don't know, it just doesn't bother me. (I guess it's my lack of involvement, unfortunately...) But I can see how it would others, because yeah, you kind of are saying his one life was of equivalent value to however many thousand people died in the Japan tragedy.

I hate to break it to you, but some people are better than other people. People are not really equal. It would be an insult to great minds to say that they're just as good as a dolt.

So yes, in great numbers of death, certainly, good people were lost.

And it would be unfair to say that the sum of all those people's character/potential/etc. are of the exact same importance as Nate Dogg; plus, there's a lot more suffering over the Japan incident than Nate Dogg's death. (Well, if you included all the negatives and overall bad people, maybe a balance or even a negative figure could be deduced, and Nate Dogg could be considered to have been "better"... but, nevermind that. Quantity probably wins in this case.)

But, I don't care. Looking over this, it's likely that I'm ridiculously simplifying the relevance of human existence in a very subjective manner, but who cares, it's food for thought.

I'm not going to go back and quote everyone because you guys have selective reading skills or something. you took one word and just decided to jump on your high horse about the whole thing. When I said overshadowed I just mean from a news reporting aspect. The tradegy that happened in Japan has been running on the news for for days since it happened on Friday and they couldn't take the time out to mention that Nate Dogg had died. I'm not trying to say that he's way more important than all of the lives that have been lost. I just feel he deserved to be mentioned is all. News can be reported on MORE than one thing at a time!! That's why I hate the media they are all about shock value and trying to get the attention of people to tune into their stations or hits to their website with the most dramatic tag lines.

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 1019406)
My post was not in response to the OP. It was in response to the exchange between vega and anticipation.

I think I see what DJ was saying and the point he was trying to make and I think, and hope, that it's just one person misunderstanding the other.

If an individual I was a fan of happened to pass away at the same time as a disaster like the one in Japan, it's not like I shouldn't be allowed to affected by this the way I would on any other day or at any other time.

However DJ, the thing you are overlooking is the use of the word overshadowed. If you read your OP it seems to read like "It's a shame that this guys death was overshadowed by the disaster in Japan." Logically the disaster in Japan has to overshadow the death of any one individual, whoever it is. People die every day, it's much less of a natural or frequent occurence for over a thousand people and entire villages, towns and cities to be destroyed. The way you worded it seems to suggest you are actually comparing the two.

Anyway, this thread probably shouldn't become a flame war so try to keep it on topic.

Thank you Mojo. It seems like you are the only one that understands. :bowdown:

I know that people die everyday and just because there were greater numbers in Japan doesn't mean I chalk it up to statistics. Anyways enough of this I'm done talking about this....back on topic.



Scarlett O'Hara 03-17-2011 03:10 AM

RIP Nate Dog, I'll never forget your incredible lyrics:

Were gonna have a party, turn the music up
Let's get it started, go ahead shake ya butt
I'm lookin for a girl I can **** in my Hummer truck
Apple bottom jeans and a big ol slut
Some girls they act retarded, some girls are bout it bout it
I want a bitch that sit at the crib with no panties on
Knows that she can but she won't say no
Now look at this lady all in front of me, sexy as can be
Tonight I want a SLUT, would you be mine?
I Heard you was freaky from a friend of mine

crash_override 03-17-2011 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1019651)
RIP Nate Dog, I'll never forget your incredible lyrics:

Were gonna have a party, turn the music up
Let's get it started, go ahead shake ya butt
I'm lookin for a girl I can **** in my Hummer truck
Apple bottom jeans and a big ol slut
Some girls they act retarded, some girls are bout it bout it
I want a bitch that sit at the crib with no panties on
Knows that she can but she won't say no
Now look at this lady all in front of me, sexy as can be
Tonight I want a SLUT, would you be mine?
I Heard you was freaky from a friend of mine

He's no Lady Gaga, that's for sure.

Howard the Duck 03-17-2011 04:51 AM

I am totally serious about Smiley Culture, btw, not trolling....

His influence on me was phenomenal........

Scarlett O'Hara 03-17-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1019667)
He's no Lady Gaga, that's for sure.

Erm, I thought that would be kind of obvious?

NSW 03-17-2011 06:04 PM

I poured a forty....RIP.


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