New School vs. Old School

djchameleon · 05-21-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Phzed

That was an awful evaluation of hip-hop music.

how is it awful? Those are the big mainstream artists for each time and those four names fit. Not sure how you can say that it isn't true.

**Janszoon** · 05-21-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

how is it awful? Those are the big mainstream artists for each time and those four names fit. Not sure how you can say that it isn't true.

Er... you seriously think Big L fits in on that list? Not only was Big L not a "big mainstream artist" during his time but he wasn't even really a contemporary of Eazy-E.

djchameleon · 05-21-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Er... you seriously think Big L fits in on that list? Not only was Big L not a "big mainstream artist" during his time but he wasn't even really a contemporary of Eazy-E.

i'm only talking about the part that he bolded.

I wasn't referring to any of the other artists.

Phzed · 05-21-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

how is it awful? Those are the big mainstream artists for each time and those four names fit. Not sure how you can say that it isn't true.

Mainstream? I'd have thought we were talking about the most influential and popular music within hip-hop culture... not mainstream culture.

And even the "current four" I would say are way off, Kanye West and Eminem have gone way past their eras where they will have contributed towards the evolution of hip-hop, they're both now mainly producing pop music that has high levels of hip-hop influence. They will both be remembered for their early albums in the years to come.
50 Cent and Lil Wayne should probably never even be considered on a list of how hip-hop has evolved.

djchameleon · 05-21-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Phzed

Mainstream? I'd have thought we were talking about the most influential and popular music within hip-hop culture... not mainstream culture.

And even the "current four" I would say are way off, Kanye West and Eminem have gone way past their eras where they will have contributed towards the evolution of hip-hop, they're both now mainstream sellouts. They will both be remembered for their early albums in the years to come.
50 Cent and Lil Wayne should probably never even be considered on a list of how hip-hop has evolved.

You'd have to ask the guy who posted it but by the way he listed those artists...I highly doubt he was listing those four that you picked out because they were the most influential artists within hip hop culture.

He was just listing some mainstream artists that were popular.

Phzed · 05-21-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TunechiBaby

You cant really have one without the other. Music evolves.
Old School was relevant and spoke for that generation. As new school is today.

Easy E, Wu Tang, Big L, Rakim, =====> Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, Mobb Deep Out Kast =======> Kanye West, 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne (current) =====> J Cole, Drake Kendrick Lamar, Blu, Big Krit (if they dont fall off) ..Hip Hop will always be good....that old school vs new school **** is stupid..there is always true hip hop....

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

You'd have to ask the guy who posted it but by the way he listed those artists...I highly doubt he was listing those four that you picked out because they were the most influential artists within hip hop culture.

He was just listing some mainstream artists that were popular.

Seems to me like he's on about hip-hop evolution.

Phantom Limb · 05-21-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

You'd have to ask the guy who posted it but by the way he listed those artists...I highly doubt he was listing those four that you picked out because they were the most influential artists within hip hop culture.

He was just listing some mainstream artists that were popular.

But this thread isnt just about popularity, it's about the quality of music and comparing what happened in the past to what is happening now.

djchameleon · 05-21-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Abearmauledme

But this thread isnt just about popularity, it's about the quality of music and comparing what happened in the past to what is happening now.

I know what the thread is about but I'm just referring to that one guy's post that isn't related to quality of music but popular artists from the past and nowadays.

I'm not the one that typed his post.

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Originally Posted by Phzed

Seems to me like he's on about hip-hop evolution.

he's on about evolution as it pertains to popularity.

Phzed · 05-21-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

he's on about evolution as it pertains to popularity.

First of all, music doesn't evolve based on popularity
Second of all, the post we're talking about never even mentioned popularity.

djchameleon · 05-21-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phzed

First of all, music doesn't evolve based on popularity
Second of all, the post we're talking about never even mentioned popularity.

the words popularity isn't mentioned but can't you tell that by the artists he picked?