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Old 06-10-2011, 11:28 AM   #121 (permalink)
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I say none.Rap is the worst form of pop music.They cant sing,they are horrible musicians and they cant speak plain English.I have heard some crap in my time but rap takes the cake.
Not all of rap is bad. Most of it, I do agree but simply because most of the rap music involves some black dude from the ghetto talking about things such as violence, rape, sex, guns, how they are the scariest guy in their town ,or being able to gain so much money thru illegal means, drugs, cocaine, i mean the list goes on and on to justify your opinion. but take not, these are male rappers.

if you listen to more female rappers such as Lil' Kim, Da Brat, Missy Elliot, Nicki Minaj, you'll appreciate 'something' in rap that you never did when you heard it from a guy. and that is pure, real, untouched by negative issues MUSIC.

The first rap song I heard was Slim Shady by Eminem which has a music video of a fat lady eating a burger with some phlegm on it. seriously, how sick can rapping get?

But when i discovered Lil' Kims "No Matter What People Say", i made the conclusion that rap, though probably just 5% or close to none in these modern times, can bring a positive message accross the world.
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Not all of rap is bad. Most of it, I do agree but simply because most of the rap music involves some black dude from the ghetto talking about things such as violence, rape, sex, guns, how they are the scariest guy in their town ,or being able to gain so much money thru illegal means, drugs, cocaine, i mean the list goes on and on to justify your opinion. but take not, these are male rappers.

if you listen to more female rappers such as Lil' Kim, Da Brat, Missy Elliot, Nicki Minaj, you'll appreciate 'something' in rap that you never did when you heard it from a guy. and that is pure, real, untouched by negative issues MUSIC.

The first rap song I heard was Slim Shady by Eminem which has a music video of a fat lady eating a burger with some phlegm on it. seriously, how sick can rapping get?

But when i discovered Lil' Kims "No Matter What People Say", i made the conclusion that rap, though probably just 5% or close to none in these modern times, can bring a positive message accross the world.
That's unbelievably ignorant.


1. "most of the rap music involves some black dude from the ghetto talking about things such as violence, rape, sex, guns, how they are the scariest guy in their town ,or being able to gain so much money thru illegal means, drugs, cocaine, i mean the list goes on and on to justify your opinion. but take not, these are male rappers."

First of all the majority are talking about the life that surrounds them, it's only negative when they glorify that kind of activity and lifestyle. Someone like Nas has socially conscious lyrics (for the most part) and he talks about a lot of those things, but he talks about how corrosive they are to his community.


2. "if you listen to more female rappers such as Lil' Kim, Da Brat, Missy Elliot, Nicki Minaj, you'll appreciate 'something' in rap that you never did when you heard it from a guy. and that is pure, real, untouched by negative issues MUSIC."

If you'd actually researched the music before making your matter of fact comment then you'd know that there are lots, and I mean lots, of positive male rappers, aswell as negative female rappers. Hip-hop's a massively diverse genre, and gangster rap was only popular in the mainstream for what, about 8/9 years from '89 towards around '98 (generalising). Just because you don't like the sound of a male rapper because it doesn't suit your blatant femininity doesn't mean that it's bad.


3. "But when i discovered Lil' Kims "No Matter What People Say", i made the conclusion that rap, though probably just 5% or close to none in these modern times, can bring a positive message accross the world."

I'd say that hip-hop is actually the most positive music throughout history, socially, politically, etc. It also happens to be one of the worst (besides something like brutal death metal), but the fact that it's that diverse is amazing.


If these are your opinions then there's no point of you posting in the rap/hip-hop section, you clearly have no knowledge or understanding of the genre.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:02 PM   #123 (permalink)
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First of all the majority are talking about the life that surrounds them, it's only negative when they glorify that kind of activity and lifestyle. Someone like Nas has socially conscious lyrics (for the most part) and he talks about a lot of those things, but he talks about how corrosive they are to his community.
the life that surrounds them? ha! these rappers earn thousands of dollars probably and you think they are surrounded by these negative issues they're putting on their rap? i don't think so. what i think is that most rappers are trying to manipulate a great majority of the population especially those who are in the ghetto who really are the ones experiencing these ugly life situations cause them rap artists know that the secret formula is:

socially disturbing rap = large percentage of young,urban, 'wild' population = greater probability of sales income


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If you'd actually researched the music before making your matter of fact comment then you'd know that there are lots, and I mean lots, of positive male rappers, aswell as negative female rappers. Hip-hop's a massively diverse genre, and gangster rap was only popular in the mainstream for what, about 8/9 years from '89 towards around '98 (generalising). Just because you don't like the sound of a male rapper because it doesn't suit your blatant femininity doesn't mean that it's bad.
i assume the current ratio of male negative rappers vs male positive rappers is probably 99:1.
in fact, i've never heard a male rapper not insulting anyone in their songs. it's always about dissing someone and getting pride out of what they're doing. just purely dissappointing.
in a man's world, rap is about conflict.
in a woman's world, it's different.

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I'd say that hip-hop is actually the most positive music throughout history, socially, politically, etc. It also happens to be one of the worst (besides something like brutal death metal), but the fact that it's that diverse is amazing.
positively, hip-hop gives chances to those who can't sing to just talk fast in front of the mic.
negatively, where do i begin?

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If these are your opinions then there's no point of you posting in the rap/hip-hop section, you clearly have no knowledge or understanding of the genre.
no knowledge, i disagree. i've got enough knowledge to justify my opinion is on point.
no understanding? you bet i don't. i don't understand majority of the hip-hop community and how they love so much to rap about drugs, sex, guns, violence, etc.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:29 PM   #124 (permalink)
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the life that surrounds them? ha! these rappers earn thousands of dollars probably and you think they are surrounded by these negative issues they're putting on their rap? i don't think so. what i think is that most rappers are trying to manipulate a great majority of the population especially those who are in the ghetto who really are the ones experiencing these ugly life situations cause them rap artists know that the secret formula is:

socially disturbing rap = large percentage of young,urban, 'wild' population = greater probability of sales income
weird, you actually have a point here. I won't say most but some of the people that love those type of songs that live in the ghetto like it because they live it everyday so it's like a soundtrack to them and they can relate to what they are saying in some of their songs. They prefer "street" songs/singles than to other types. Mixtapes usually have more of a street vibe than official releases though. Official releases have more club tracks and songs for the ladies. That part of your statement I don't agree with.

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i assume the current ratio of male negative rappers vs male positive rappers is probably 99:1.
in fact, i've never heard a male rapper not insulting anyone in their songs. it's always about dissing someone and getting pride out of what they're doing. just purely dissappointing.
in a man's world, rap is about conflict.
in a woman's world, it's different.
The few mainstream female rappers that are around always go at each other's throat more often than the males.

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Not all of rap is bad. Most of it, I do agree but simply because most of the rap music involves some black dude from the ghetto talking about things such as violence, rape, sex, guns, how they are the scariest guy in their town ,or being able to gain so much money thru illegal means, drugs, cocaine, i mean the list goes on and on to justify your opinion. but take not, these are male rappers.

if you listen to more female rappers such as Lil' Kim, Da Brat, Missy Elliot, Nicki Minaj, you'll appreciate 'something' in rap that you never did when you heard it from a guy. and that is pure, real, untouched by negative issues MUSIC.

The first rap song I heard was Slim Shady by Eminem which has a music video of a fat lady eating a burger with some phlegm on it. seriously, how sick can rapping get?

But when i discovered Lil' Kims "No Matter What People Say", i made the conclusion that rap, though probably just 5% or close to none in these modern times, can bring a positive message accross the world.
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Not all of rap is bad. Most of it, I do agree but simply because most of the rap music involves some black dude from the ghetto talking about things such as violence, rape, sex, guns, how they are the scariest guy in their town ,or being able to gain so much money thru illegal means, drugs, cocaine, i mean the list goes on and on to justify your opinion. but take not, these are male rappers.

if you listen to more female rappers such as Lil' Kim, Da Brat, Missy Elliot, Nicki Minaj, you'll appreciate 'something' in rap that you never did when you heard it from a guy. and that is pure, real, untouched by negative issues MUSIC.

The first rap song I heard was Slim Shady by Eminem which has a music video of a fat lady eating a burger with some phlegm on it. seriously, how sick can rapping get?

But when i discovered Lil' Kims "No Matter What People Say", i made the conclusion that rap, though probably just 5% or close to none in these modern times, can bring a positive message accross the world.
If you replaced "female rappers" with "alternative" or "underground" you'd be- bizarrely enough- kind-off right.

However, it's clear that this is a genre you haven't spent much time exploring.If your just looking on the surface (which most hip hop haters do) your stereotype isn't completely off the mark.

Don't you think rapping about staying in luxury hotels and having everything handed to you would be less enticing? How many fans could relate to that?
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You shouldn't make sweeping generalisations on something you know little about, you just shouldn't.
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