First rapper

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-07-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I still say Bob Dylan made the world's first rap song.

And before Gil-Scott Heron, what about the Last Poets?

What song would that be?

**Janszoon** · 12-07-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

What song would that be?

I assume he's talking about "Subterranean Homesick Blues".

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-07-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I assume he's talking about "Subterranean Homesick Blues".

I never thought about it like that. He is essentially rapping in the song, but was he the first to use that kind of vocal style?

**Janszoon** · 12-07-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

I never thought about it like that. He is essentially rapping in the song, but was he the first to use that kind of vocal style?

I doubt it. I'm sure you could find examples of beat poets, jazz singers and blues singers doing similar things earlier if you looked into it a bit.

Jester · 12-11-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I doubt it. I'm sure you could find examples of beat poets, jazz singers and blues singers doing similar things earlier if you looked into it a bit.

Yeah, I was talking about Subterranean Homesick Blues. It's Dylan raging at the establishment with rapidfire delivery and a relatively intricate rhyming scheme. That's hip hop as fuck.

If you can find me something pre-dating Subterranean Homesick Blues that's as hip hop in delivery and aesthetic as Dylan's track, then I'll change my idea of what the world's first rap song was.

**Janszoon** · 01-10-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

If you can find me something pre-dating Subterranean Homesick Blues that's as hip hop in delivery and aesthetic as Dylan's track, then I'll change my idea of what the world's first rap song was.

While checking out a little Louis Jordan earlier today, I stumbled across this track "Beware, Brother, Beware" and it immediately made me think of this thread. This song is from the 1940s and both the vocal style and the subject matter are amazingly hip hop to me. Check it out:

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 01-10-2011, 03:59 PM

second commercial(and a few):

Some reason 50s commercials are chalked full of sections of hip hop.

Jester · 01-10-2011, 05:23 PM

^ That's because rapping is catchy, it's great for advertisement

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

While checking out a little Louis Jordan earlier today, I stumbled across this track "Beware, Brother, Beware" and it immediately made me think of this thread. This song is from the 1940s and both the vocal style and the subject matter are amazingly hip hop to me. Check it out:

Sweet, nice find. This is the earliest hip hop I've heard.

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