Frownland

Music is always art. Just because you don't like it or it's objectively shitty does not strip it of its status as art. Tyler Perry's films are still films, How I Met Your Mother is still a sitcom, Catcher In the Rye is still a novel, the sea of poetry written by angsty and vocabularyless teens is still poetry. Just because I think these things are worse than getting my eyes gouged out, they are all still art. To quote Duchamp, "art can be bad, good, or indifferent, but whatever adjective is used we must still call it art."

It only makes you look ignorant when you call a piece of art otherwise because you're not a fan of it.

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Soulflower

Music is a art medium yes. However, it doesn't mean songs or music videos are artistic just because it falls under that medium.

I don't think it makes me look ignorant to suggest this, I just feel it's just my opinion.

P.S. I agree about your opinion on the Tyler Perry films but I gotta say "They Family that Preys" was pretty good.

Frownland

Well note that I didn't mention anything about being artistic in my post, I agree that it's up to you to decide that. My gripe was with you not calling it art. Just call it bad art.

You know, like Salo.

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Soulflower

Well stated. Gotcha!

Ninetales

No arguments here

Ninetales

hmmm?

also i guess "art" and "artistic" are technically different things. All music is art. It's just a descriptor. Whether or not you think a piece of music is artistic is up to you i suppose, but it sounds like a whiny hollow insult to me. "oh i dont like this so it's not artistic". I cant think of any music on the planet that i would say isnt artistic.