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Old 12-13-2010, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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well, like it or not, this stuff happens all the time in hip-hop and while I disagree with you FaSho, I don't think it makes rap more interesting, I think it's pretty dumb and they should all just get along and have awesome collaberations, I also think that because it happens so much it shouldn't be taken as seriously as you seem to take it, Sugar
I'm not taking it seriously. I made a point about how she was literally being rude and how she was in the wrong... and then you made a point about how her verses are better. As much as I agree with that fact, and as much as I'm sure there is a lot more to this whole argument than meets the eye, it's completely unintelligent and out of place to rebuttal my argument by bringing up an unrelated point. That's all I'm saying about that.
Now, if we're going to talk music, Nicki's verses are a lot better. When looking up the lyrics, I could have used any part of Roman's Revenge as an example. It took me much longer to find a sharp verse or a bite in Lil Kim's.
Do you understand now why I had a hard time debating this? I AGREED with you about the verses, so bringing that point up AGAINST my point, which had nothing to do with the verses... was futile.
I don't give a **** whether it happens all of the time in hip hop. I'm talking about this situation right now, because it was brought up. I know it happens all of the time in hip hop, it happens all of the time everywhere. And there are different circumstances in every situation. Don't try to generalize it.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Roman's Revenge is a great track, but a bit disturbing honestly. The Eminem verse is just offputting. Since she's so big right now, I'm sure it will become super-popular soon, and become pretty controversial. I personally don't care though.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Roman's Revenge is a great track, but a bit disturbing honestly. The Eminem verse is just offputting. Since she's so big right now, I'm sure it will become super-popular soon, and become pretty controversial. I personally don't care though.
How come it's offputting, because of the things he's talking about?
Eh, in my opinion, it's no different from what Eminem was already doing, so I wasn't too surprised.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Roman's Revenge is a great track, but a bit disturbing honestly. The Eminem verse is just offputting. Since she's so big right now, I'm sure it will become super-popular soon, and become pretty controversial. I personally don't care though.
lol I guess I have to listen to it again and try to look at it from a different point of view. when I listen to hip-hop disturbing/violent/sexual things don't affect me as much, I guess I just go into a different state of mind or I'm used to it.. I wonder if that is a good thing or a bad thing..


alright, Sugar I see your point. I guess Nicki is a bit more rude than your average artist anyways lol. It will be interesting to see if she cools down a bit once she is a bit more of a veteran.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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lol I guess I have to listen to it again and try to look at it from a different point of view. when I listen to hip-hop disturbing/violent/sexual things don't affect me as much, I guess I just go into a different state of mind or I'm used to it.. I wonder if that is a good thing or a bad thing..


alright, Sugar I see your point. I guess Nicki is a bit more rude than your average artist anyways lol. It will be interesting to see if she cools down a bit once she is a bit more of a veteran.
She prolly will, I think she's doing it for attention.
I just didn't have much of a problem because it was meant to be that disturbing.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah. I know diss tracks tend to be really dark (Nas's Ether comes to mind), but they also don't tend to be single's sooooo

And no offense, but I don't think you've heard enough Eminem if you're making that generalization. He jokes around a lot, but he makes a lot of really tight and impacting music as well.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think you guys will like this one well the vid is a little ruff so not sure if its ok to post it contains strong words so i left the link out. do a search in youtube on nicki minaj and eminem in a song called romans revange check that out its awesome!.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't think celebrity feuds should ever be taken seriously. These two people have far too much to loose to actually kill each other. Meanwhile, it makes for some great music. I think deep down both these artists respect each other on some level. How could they not? Nicki obviously enjoyed Kim's music. Kim surely must have some respect for a female rapper who's done so well for herself.
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k i ended that argument. i have nothing more to say about that right now.
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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k i ended that argument. i have nothing more to say about that right now.
Sweet I got the last word for once!
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