Nicki Minaj

djchameleon · 06-30-2014, 02:19 PM

There are loads of rappers that use ghost writers. I don't even know why people care so much in this day and age. Some of their favorites don't even write their own ****.

When I first heard the story. I thought it was just the media again trying to create a beef out of something vague and the fans just eating it up like it is a fact.

She may be talking about her but I don't care until she actually calls out her name specifically then it is a non issue.

Arya Stark · 06-30-2014, 02:47 PM

This is a great conversation. I think there was very little shade in her comment but she could have been directing it at anyone!

I think rappers take SO much credit for being the best in the game so when they don't write their own stuff it really is kind of weird.

And i mean some verses written by others, or even songs... that's one thing. But for most of your verses to be written by others, it's just a little off

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-30-2014, 03:34 PM

I can still enjoy a manufactured song but we're talking about rappers here. Anybody can spit lyrics someone else has written for you, it's really not difficult. Singers can be excused as often it is more about how they sound than what they're saying but not really rappers.

Maybe it is more common than I realise, doesn't make it any less shit.

Ninetales · 06-30-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

I can still enjoy a manufactured song but we're talking about rappers here. Anybody can spit lyrics someone else has written for you, it's really not difficult. Singers can be excused as often it is more about how they sound than what they're saying but not really rappers.

Maybe it is more common than I realise, doesn't make it any less shit.

But how does someone not writing something take away from the actual sound? As a listener it shouldnt matter.

14232949 · 06-30-2014, 04:13 PM

It depends what you're looking for. If you're looking for just a catchy song then it won't.
If you're looking for authenticity or a relatable narrative/storytelling in your hip-hop, then it should.

Ninetales · 06-30-2014, 04:28 PM

If I gave you ten random songs, would you be able to tell which were written by the rapper and which werent just by listening to them? If not, then im not sure what the issue is here.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-30-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

But how does someone not writing something take away from the actual sound? As a listener it shouldnt matter.

As said above depending on what you're looking for it doesn't have to. If something like Illmatic or Me Against the World was ghost written I would be disappointed and I think the albums would lose a bit of charm. Imagine if something like Dear Mama was ghost written

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I can still enjoy a manufactured song but we're talking about rappers here.

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It can still sound good; I enjoy both of Dre's albums, even enjoy foreign music in languages I don't understand based purely on what it sounds like, but it takes a lot away from him as a 'rapper' if he's not writing his own bars. There really is nothing special about rapping somebody else's bars. Most of us on here could do it.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-30-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

If I gave you ten random songs, would you be able to tell which were written by the rapper and which werent just by listening to them? If not, then im not sure what the issue is here.

Could still enjoy them if they were good but it wouldn't make the rappers good rappers.

Ninetales · 06-30-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke

Could still enjoy them if they were good but it wouldn't make the rappers good rappers.

Yeah ok I understand what you mean i guess but even still you can be a technically good rapper without having written anything.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-30-2014, 05:05 PM

Yeah, you could be good at hitting all the syllables and staying on beat but anyone who listens to Hip-Hop would be able to do that surely.
And who listens to Hip-Hop to see how fast or clear people can spit? May as well listen to DnB.

I'm just saying on an individual level I don't rate 'rappers' who have everything written for them.

06-30-2014, 03:34 PM	#363 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I can still enjoy a manufactured song but we're talking about rappers here. Anybody can spit lyrics someone else has written for you, it's really not difficult. Singers can be excused as often it is more about how they sound than what they're saying but not really rappers. Maybe it is more common than I realise, doesn't make it any less shit.

06-30-2014, 04:13 PM	#365 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	It depends what you're looking for. If you're looking for just a catchy song then it won't. If you're looking for authenticity or a relatable narrative/storytelling in your hip-hop, then it should.

06-30-2014, 04:28 PM	#366 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	If I gave you ten random songs, would you be able to tell which were written by the rapper and which werent just by listening to them? If not, then im not sure what the issue is here.

06-30-2014, 05:05 PM	#370 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Yeah, you could be good at hitting all the syllables and staying on beat but anyone who listens to Hip-Hop would be able to do that surely. And who listens to Hip-Hop to see how fast or clear people can spit? May as well listen to DnB. I'm just saying on an individual level I don't rate 'rappers' who have everything written for them.