Today's Rap, 90's, or 80's Rap

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Because the music he released wasn't noteworthy simply because he was a superstar, it also was considered monumental music. Snoop Dogg was just releasing mediocre albums and making money, nothing groundbreaking.

It wasn't considered monumental music by me then or now. I always found it dull and boring—the antithesis of groundbreaking—even when it was new.

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Again, opinions. Most people who actually like Cypress Hill will say that their first two are clearly their strongest. Same with Del, from what I've heard most think his debut is the best he's done (which I agree with).

Of course I'm expressing opinions, just like you. I will say though you're the first person I've met who thinks that Del's first album was better than the Deltron 3030 album.

midnight rain · 07-20-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

According to Dre, he was the George Washington for black people. I don't know what the hell that means, but snoop isn't mediocre. When he's on, he's on. But this is the equivalent of saying a singer sucks unless his band is good. Chris Cornell fronted Audio Slave for a time. He wasn't mediocre.

That's what I said. He was on in the early 90's, and not so much in the late 90's. You may want to read over my posts again because I think you missed my post. Unless of course you're trying to defend "Da Game Is to Be Sold", in which case I have nothing more to say.

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Del's first album was barely Del. I like "catch a bad one" (if thats from his first) but thanks not who he was. Thats Del aping west coast gangsta trash and I think he's much, much better now.

That's fine, but I'm pointing out how Del's output in the early 90's was much stronger than the late 90's. And I don't see the "gangsta" thing at all on his debut, you sure you were hearing the lyrics correctly?

midnight rain · 07-20-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It wasn't considered monumental music by me then or now. I always found it dull and boring—the antithesis of groundbreaking—even when it was new.

Of course I'm expressing opinions, just like you. I will say though you're the first person I've met who thinks that Del's first album was better than the Deltron 3030 album.

No, I'm saying Del's first is better than his late 90's stuff, which I thought was what we were talking about. It's an excellent album either way, I'm a big fan of his first and Deltron 3030.

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

No, I'm saying Del's first is better than his late 90's stuff, which I thought was what we were talking about. It's an excellent album either way, I'm a big fan of his first and Deltron 3030.

I though you were disagreeing when I said I thought his peak was in the early 00s, not the early 90s.

midnight rain · 07-20-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I though you were disagreeing when I said I thought his peak was in the early 00s, not the early 90s.

I just looked back and I did word it like that but that's not what I meant. My bad.

I still think his early 90's stuff is strong enough to stand on it's own two feet though

TheBig3 · 07-20-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

That's what I said. He was on in the early 90's, and not so much in the late 90's. You may want to read over my posts again because I think you missed my post. Unless of course you're trying to defend "Da Game Is to Be Sold", in which case I have nothing more to say.

You said he was mediocre. I said he wasn't.

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Snoop Dogg was just releasing mediocre albums and making money, nothing groundbreaking.

I don't think we're saying the same thing here.

midnight rain · 07-20-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

You said he was mediocre. I said he wasn't.

I don't think we're saying the same thing here.

So is Snoop Dogg albums? Because I clearly say albums, not Snoop Dogg. Unless those two are synonyms...

Also, is there any reason your getting on my case but not Janszoon's? He said Snoop Dogg isn't good period, I only said his late 90's albums weren't good. Must be a mod thing.

TheBig3 · 07-20-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

So is Snoop Dogg albums? Because I clearly say albums, not Snoop Dogg. Unless those two are synonyms...

Also, is there any reason your getting on my case but not Janszoon's? He said Snoop Dogg isn't good period, I only said his late 90's albums weren't good. Must be a mod thing.

Jans didn't respond. You did. I lead of speaking to both of you.

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Also, is there any reason your getting on my case but not Janszoon's? He said Snoop Dogg isn't good period, I only said his late 90's albums weren't good.

That's not actually what I said, though I guess I could see where it was unclear from the way I phrased it. I think he's a great rapper with an amazing voice but the final product with him always seems to end up mediocre unless Dr. Dre is involved.

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Originally Posted by Tuna

Must be a mod thing.

Big3 isn't a mod.

TheBig3 · 07-20-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Big3 isn't a mod.

I think he thought I was afraid of you.

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