Sparky

yeah i will in a bit. It's crazy to think there hasn't been a distinct outkast release for over a decade now, since stankonia.

If this is as good as it gets now ill just have to accept it.

FrankBeardjr

That whole camp is dope, I have gotten the pleasure of working with Kyle Lucas, who is part of Big Boi's label, he has had nothing but good things to say about working with Big Boi, and "Mama told me" ft kelly is a great single.

14232949

boy, is the new album a terrible pile of steaming monkey ****.
I think if you ever wanted to know what an artist clinging onto his last ounce of relevancy and promptly discarding it in a sea full of filler and terrible songwriting sounded like then this is as close as you'll get.

Big Boi, what happened? Right from the start this record had absolutely no imagination, no creativity, no drive. It was a challenge to get through it.

The hooks were dreadful, one actually went along the lines of;
'Let me see your titties
she said okay
Let me see your pussy
she said okay'

Absolutely woeful. It encompasses how much thought went into rushing this abomination out that one of the hooks from the track 'In the A' was actually recycling the hook from Shutterbug from his last album.

There was no attempt to make any new songs of the level of Shutterbug, Follow Us or even Tangerine Dream. There was no attempt to make a coherent, memorable album.
Big Boi ran out of decent verses about 3 tracks in and the hooks remained constantly dismal throughout.

Oh, then there was the track that seemed like the Never Ending Story with Big Boi whining about his dead father. It wasn't done in a way that the listener would have their heart strings yanked at by Big Boi's upsetting tale, nor was it done in a sentimental manner.
It was just whiny and unnecessary. Not to mention it dragged on for a painful amount of time. It was honestly the musical equivalent of slowly strangling a cat to death and crying about its demise at the same time.
I can't imagine who Big Boi thought the track would appeal to.

There was the chance to either go one of two ways with this album, make a hardcore rap record or to make a poppy record with the aim of breaking the mainstream.
Big Boi attempted the latter. What he failed to realize is that pop music is usually catchy and memorable. Traits that were lost on this terrible, terrible record.
This album just sucked, anyone who liked it I must question your sanity.

It makes me thankful that Andre 3000 stayed well away from this, because this record would surely be like a black hole sucking the life out of anyone that came in contact with it. Terrible record.

Cuthbert

Get off the fence and tell us how you really feel.

You sound pissed off because it's closer to pop than hardcore rap, don't see why that's a problem, if you're an Outkast fan you pretty much accept that that's how they are. They've always flirted with pop.

There are 4 or 5 great tracks on this album, some average and a couple below average. It's not a pile of **** at all. And there were poppy tracks on TSOCD, Be Still, Follow Us, Hustle Blood...

This bit though

I do not agree with at all. Pop music is on the whole, ****. Outkast are one of a few examples of good pop music.

Appreciate your opinions though, not knocking you, I just don't agree. There are worse examples of cringe inducing Hip-Pop than this.

Oh and as for the hook thing, the first line of Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik was recycled on ATLiens (the title tracks), again I don't see the problem?

14232949

You thought there were 'great' tracks on this? 4 or 5 of them? Name one.
I don't have a problem with a pop record, hell sometimes it's for the best when a hip-hop artist moves more into the mainstream. This record tried to be pop (Look at the collaborations) but just came across as depleted of any redeeming qualities.

I did like his first solo album also. But, this came nowhere near. Can you honestly tell me this album will be getting talked about in a year or twos time?

As for pop music, it's aim is to create easy-to-listen-to songs that can be heard and enjoyed by the majority. Us music nerds are the minority.
Everyone knows the words to Call Me Maybe and I don't think I went anywhere this summer without hearing Flo Rida's Whistle Song.
They're undeniably catchy and memorable. They may not be technical music masterpieces, but they're not trying to be.

This album tried to be pop, and was just a flop.

It's right next to Habits and Contradictions as the worst hip-hop release of the year in my opinion.

Cuthbert

Apple of My Eye
Objectum Sexuality
CPU
Descending
In The A

Also how can you say it's a flop when it's not even released yet. It could go number 1, would it still be a flop then?

14232949

It was a flop in my opinion. I've never really cared if an album was successful either critically or commercially. It's whether or not I liked it.
I did not like this album, it sucked therefore in my universe it is a flop as I had reasonable exceptions that this album came nowhere near exceeding.

I've covered 'In The A'. It's a lazy re-hash of Shutterbug with Ludacris bragging about how much money he makes.
CPU is annoying and horribly clichéd.
Girl sings hook about what a great guy lead artist is, lead artist drops average verse.
Descending is woefully slow and whiny. 'Meh daddies gone' over some downbeat instrumentals is not a 'great track'
As for the other two, they left absolutely no impression on me at all. Stellar.

Cuthbert

OK bro. I feel some of the arguments you are using could be applied to his previous album though. We'll have to agree to disagree. I enjoyed this album.

14232949

What are your favourite hip-hop albums of the year, just out of interest?

Cuthbert

Oddisee - People Hear What They See
Apollo Brown & OC - Trophies
Mello Music Group - Self Sacrifice
Nas - Life is Good

Was Elmatic last year or this year?

There might be a couple more but my memory has gone blank, that and I'm not as big on Hip-Hop as some of you guys, so don't scold me