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11-26-2009, 12:42 PM
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daddy don't
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Not another 'state of hip-hop today' thread
Read this article, chances are you'll agree with something in it.
Simon Reynolds's Notes on the noughties: When will hip-hop hurry up and die? | Music | guardian.co.uk I'm surprised to find myself almost agreeing with the dismissal of underground hip-hop, outside of the 10-15 'essentials' I have accrued I find some of the big hitters in that scene to be portentous and backwards. The purveyors of underground hip-hop 'hybrid music' I have got time for though. Thoughts? |
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11-26-2009, 01:19 PM
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Cardboard Box Realtor
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Sounded like your typical "Things were so much better back in the day" rants that make me want to puke out my blackened guts. OK I agree with him about the current state of mainstream hip hop but I've always thought like that and so have a lot of people, "Mainstream hip hop is more about self image than lyrics!" ZOMG really!??!?! Even his little pathetic rant on underground hip hop was dumbfounded and had no real substance to it. He couldn't even be kind enough to name a few hip hop groups from this decade. 2009 the death of hip hop? Don't make me laugh, here's a list of hip hop albums from 2009 I have found myself enjoying:
Gift of Gab - Escape 2 Mars Random - Mega Ran 9 CunninLynguists - Strange Journey Vol. 1 & 2 P.O.S. - Never Better Bike For Three -More Heart Than Brains Busdriver - Jhelli Beam Brother Ali - The Truth Is Here Sleep (Of Oldominion) - Hesitation Wounds Classified - Self-Explanatory DOOM - Born Like This CYNE - Water For Mars Cradle Orchestra - Velvet Ballads Audible Mainframe - Transients Mos Def -The Ecstatic mc chris - Part Six Part One K'Naan - Troubadour Phrase - Clockwork True Live - Found Lost Why? - Eskimo Snow People really need to be more positive. |
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11-26-2009, 07:20 PM
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11-26-2009, 08:14 PM
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D-Sisive - Let the Children Die Fashawn - Boy Meets World Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt II
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12-01-2009, 07:28 AM
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Jay-Z- Blueprint 3 Murs- Murs For President Busta Rhymes- Back on my B.S. Wale- Attention Deficit Clipse- Till my Casket Drops Rakim- The Seventh Seal Eminem- Relapse Witness- .45 Sweetheart LTC- It's Just a Demo Didn't Wu Tang's 8 Diagrams come out this year too? But yeah, the writer of the article tried to stabalize his arguement by stating all the things people would say against his statement. Only he never really explained how they would be wrong. It is over-nostalgia. I can't stand when so many supposed hip-hop fans look at musical proggression with such disdain. The stuff that's being put out (avante-garde style hip-hop) is really great music. It doesn't get any simpler. And who is this guy or anyone who thinks they can declare a genre of music dead?As long as there are still artists putting music out, and fans to gobble it up, who's to say it's dead? Because of the loose definition, every year some pretentious writer is going to declare genre A dead. It's the curse of disco. Last edited by Bane of your existence; 12-01-2009 at 12:12 PM. |
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12-01-2009, 08:03 AM
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8 Diagrams was a few years ago, but I didn't think it was all that great to begin with.
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11-26-2009, 01:44 PM
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daddy don't
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i think you totally missed the point of the article Pete, it was in response to a 'hip-hop is dead' rant, published in the New Yorker; and i wouldn't call the few lines referring to underground hip-hop a 'pathetic rant', just an observation, it's an insular scene.
And the whole thrust of it was about solutions but you obviously missed that too - 'when will hip-hop hurry up and die'? I.e. when will the black youth who make this stuff that gets hoovered up by boring mugs of all denominations start to get fed up of it, when they move on THEN things will get interesting in the mainstream again and I won't have to listen to ****ing Aesop Rock up on his pedestal spitting scathing rants and call for consciousness that I can't even bloody understand anyway. You are the obscure mixtape-wielding naysayer in this dialogue man, I'm fed up of backpacker hip-hop for now, I've got my good ones to cherish. oh and btw the new DOOM was shite |
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