right-track

^ Nice one.

Now I'm all ranted out (not really...I could bitch about this for pages) to answer your question (if I had a gun to my head) I'd probably choose the 90's.

Lain_Lain

lol you can rant more if you want to. On some point I agree with you although I love 90s r&b.

Nowadays to me it seem like music is getting worse lol.

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SATCHMO

There was some good 90's R&B: Eryka Bhadu, Tony Toni Tone, Jamiroquai, Musiq Soulchild

asshat

I prefered the R & B in the 60's and 70's when it wasn't was so rigid as a genre, and the songs had actual cojones. Ironically, black and white music seemed more integrated 40 plus years ago than it is now.

Theres absolutely no sublety to any of the new crap. Everytime someone says baby they have to say:"bayayayayayaybyyyyyy". Virtuouso singers have made it a stale genre the same way too many guitar virtuoso's ruined rock music. Overproduction and the lack of real musicians has totally killed it.

I still think R. Kelly's a genius, even though he took up the lionel richie torch and made R&B even ****tier than it was in the 80's.

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itzkim

90's r&b was da bomb. omg there were so many talented artists and it was real music.

djchameleon

I think most new people would put this topic in this forum because in the description of the forum is says to discuss R&B so where would you put it?

back to the topic.

There is a notable different between 90s R&B and todays R&B but I like them both the same. I think there were better artists in the 90s that the radio played more but nowadays the good artists in R&B doesn't get as much radio play.

Also I wouldn't call anything that came out in the 60s and 70s R&B because that's not what it was. It was soul which is slightly different. Just like there are artists today that consider themselves Neo-soul....they wouldn't want to be called R&B because they aren't.

right-track

If you read my earlier posts on page 1 you'll realise the context of my post dj.

djchameleon

okay I got it now, I just kind of skimmed over the first few posts

I'd like to hear some examples from you of what you consider 60s R&B

maybe I need to brush up on the history of Rhythm and Blues but imo R&B didn't really kick off til the mid to late 80s.

Edit: well I did some quick research and found out that basically soul and funk was grouped in with R&B in the 60s/70s....it was a blanket term for those two genres back then. I always thought Soul and Funk were seperate and that R&B didn't come around til later on....what's considered modern R&B is what I thought was just R&B in general.

SATCHMO

Jerry Wexler the great producer for Atlantic records, who also produced Aretha Franklin coined the phrase Rhythm & Blues to the replace the deragatory phrase "race records" as a more appropriate term to describe the genre of music.
I think there's no doubt that contemporary R&B did evolve from Rhythm and Blues and soul, but I think some disasterous turns were made along the way. Most of which can be attributed as much if not more to the industry than to the artists themselves.

dazza1979

All R and b is rubbish and they should get it out the clubs and music channels pure mince