Turntablism

crazymenrunningback · 06-19-2009, 05:33 PM

Turntablism is a genre of hip hop where the djs are more important than the mcs, or the djs are just used more than normal. For History Of Turntablism Turntablism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia go to that link. A lot turtablism isn't that good unless your seeing it live (in my opinion) such as "The Invisibl Skratch Piklz". Other Turntablist make music made to be enjoyable on cd such as "Kid Koala" Or "Dj Q-bert". Turntablism Is definitely a acquired taste but once Understood is great.
A couple Turntable Bands

Dj-Qbert
Rob Swift
Kid Koala
Cut Chemist
Mix Master Mike
Beat Junkies

I think that turntablism should have its own genre because I think that real turntable bands don't sound anything like hip hop.

jackhammer · 06-19-2009, 05:45 PM

Original Hip hop was cutting and pasting music though so I would still class it as Hip Hop personally.

Engine · 06-19-2009, 06:20 PM

Until I hear a turntablist who does not have any interest in hip-hop (which I would love to hear, actually) I consider it hip-hop.

bigev · 06-19-2009, 06:21 PM

I wouldnt be able to picture a scratch battle tour with 100% Electronica. Aint going to happen. LOL

feedbacker · 06-19-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

Until I hear a turntablist who does not have any interest in hip-hop (which I would love to hear, actually) I consider it hip-hop.

Well, there are performers like DJ Olive and Otomo Yoshihide who play in more avant-jazz settings that really don't reference hip-hop, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have no interest in it.

Kool_Dude_HaMeR · 06-19-2009, 06:40 PM

Making music by mixing samples, and any other form of prerecorded sounds which were not specifically created by the person mixing it, to me is hip-hop (unless the music isn't really being altered from its original form, in which case its just generic DJing and not really part of any genre). If the sound is electronically produced by the use of computer programs or synthesizers I would consider it to be electronica.
although that is a pretty loose definition since people may do both.

Engine · 06-19-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by feedbacker

Well, there are performers like DJ Olive and Otomo Yoshihide who play in more avant-jazz settings that really don't reference hip-hop, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have no interest in it.

True and that's sort of what I am saying. Hip-hop heads make turntablism - even if their music doesn't reference hip-hop (though I think most does at least a little). When a jazz musician exchanges his acoustic bass or piano for turntables, I'll be more sold on the idea that it has become a unique genre. I guess Otomo Yoshihide is a move in that direction, though.

Edit: I'm not saying a jazzman can't have interest in hip-hop, either. Hmm.. maybe I should change my vote?

jackhammer · 06-19-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by feedbacker

Well, there are performers like DJ Olive and Otomo Yoshihide who play in more avant-jazz settings that really don't reference hip-hop, but that doesn't necessarily mean they have no interest in it.

Yes but no matter how far you deviate regarding your sources the basic principles are the same as original hip hop which combined splicing beats and then applying social commentary over the top. It's a form of hip hop and people seem to think that if there is no rapping then it's not hip Hop when many early tracks were instrumental splicings. BTW the last sentence was general and not regarding your post!

crazymenrunningback · 06-19-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bigev

I wouldnt be able to picture a scratch battle tour with 100% Electronica. Aint going to happen. LOL

The reason i put electronica in my poll was because on my itunes kid koala is classified under electronica. I was curious to see how many votes it would get and so far none

jackhammer · 06-19-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymenrunningback

The reason i put electronica in my poll was because on my itunes kid koala is classified under electronica. I was curious to see how many votes it would get and so far none

i tunes is the yardstick we should measure our tastes at? The whole point of forums like this is to be proud of our non conformity.

View Poll Results: What Genre Do You Consider Turntablism To Be
Rap/ Hip Hop	11	68.75%
Electronica	1	6.25%
It Should be its own genre	2	12.50%
Other	2	12.50%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

06-19-2009, 05:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
crazymenrunningback Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: S.F Posts: 128	Turntablism Turntablism is a genre of hip hop where the djs are more important than the mcs, or the djs are just used more than normal. For History Of Turntablism Turntablism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia go to that link. A lot turtablism isn't that good unless your seeing it live (in my opinion) such as "The Invisibl Skratch Piklz". Other Turntablist make music made to be enjoyable on cd such as "Kid Koala" Or "Dj Q-bert". Turntablism Is definitely a acquired taste but once Understood is great. A couple Turntable Bands Dj-Qbert Rob Swift Kid Koala Cut Chemist Mix Master Mike Beat Junkies I think that turntablism should have its own genre because I think that real turntable bands don't sound anything like hip hop. __________________ If god didnt want you to have sex till you married, why did he make it feel so good?

06-19-2009, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Original Hip hop was cutting and pasting music though so I would still class it as Hip Hop personally. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-19-2009, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kool_Dude_HaMeR Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Éire Posts: 66	Making music by mixing samples, and any other form of prerecorded sounds which were not specifically created by the person mixing it, to me is hip-hop (unless the music isn't really being altered from its original form, in which case its just generic DJing and not really part of any genre). If the sound is electronically produced by the use of computer programs or synthesizers I would consider it to be electronica. although that is a pretty loose definition since people may do both. __________________ "BTW IDK WTF 'FTW' st&s 4" <-QFT

06-19-2009, 06:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	Until I hear a turntablist who does not have any interest in hip-hop (which I would love to hear, actually) I consider it hip-hop.

06-19-2009, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigev Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	I wouldnt be able to picture a scratch battle tour with 100% Electronica. Aint going to happen. LOL