Eminem

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-01-2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

"A", single gay person? Or 5 gay people? Or a thousand? They would still be in the vast minority of gay people (and obviously brainwashed into thinking it's somehow ok). The general consensus is that it's offensive and should not be used.

Because they don't share your opinion, they're obviously brainwashed?

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I haven't used it to describe anybody, and I never would, obviously. I merely acknowledged its existence.

You said people with no prejudice toward gay people wouldn't use it in "any context", so it having to be used in the context of describing someone doesn't matter.

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Nope. You can't. Sorry to burst your bubble. There is no way of using it (against someone) in a non-homophobic way

You are arguing against something I haven't said. I said you can use it without being homophobic, as in, a non homophobic person could use that word and they wouldn't suddenly be a homophobe just because they have used that word.

Obviously if you use a homophobic slur intended as a homophobic slur then it's use is homophobic but that's not what I'm saying.

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Belittling a man by implying they suck another man's balls is not homophobic to you?

Whether it is or it isn't, that's not what I'm arguing.

adidasss · 09-01-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Sucking another man's balls is inherently belittling? Tone down the homophobia mate.

Sigh. Your trolling is really tiresome, especially when you think you're being clever. Go away please.

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Because they don't share your opinion, they're obviously brainwashed?

Yes, much like abused women who don't think they are abused because their abusive partners only do it because they love them. People can say and think many things, the objective truth is another thing.

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You said people with no prejudice toward gay people wouldn't use it in "any context", so it having to be used in the context of describing someone doesn't matter.

It absolutely matters, don't be obtuse for argument's sake.

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You are arguing against something I haven't said. I said you can use it without being homophobic, as in, a non homophobic person could use that word and they wouldn't suddenly be a homophobe just because they have used that word.

Give me an example of someone using "faggot" to describe another person without it being homophobic.

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Obviously if you use a homophobic slur intended as a homophobic slur then it's use is homophobic

Which is what Eminem did here.

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Whether it is or it isn't, that's not what I'm arguing.

What you're arguing is that Eminem is not homophobic because he bought a gay couple a cock ring once. C'mon!

adidasss · 09-01-2018, 10:13 PM

Also, I'm trying to find a reference where Tyler actually called himself a "faggot" and can't find any. That also makes a difference.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-02-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Give me an example of someone using "faggot" to describe another person without it being homophobic.

Which is what Eminem did here.

What you're arguing is that Eminem is not homophobic because he bought a gay couple a cock ring once. C'mon!

I said in my last post what I was arguing.

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a non homophobic person could use that word and they wouldn't suddenly be a homophobe just because they have used that word.

I'm not repeating myself, seems you either don't understand or are purposely arguing against a point that doesn't exist.

If you want to discuss what I actually said then I'll discuss it with you.

**Frownland** · 09-02-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Sigh. Your trolling is really tiresome, especially when you think you're being clever. Go away please.

You go away. You wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for a poorly written clickbait article.

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Also, I'm trying to find a reference where Tyler actually called himself a "faggot" and can't find any. That also makes a difference.

He's used the word quite a few times and his last album was supposedly had some hints toward his own homosexuality.

adidasss · 09-02-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He's used the word quite a few times and his last album was supposedly had some hints toward his own homosexuality.

Did he call himself a "faggot" though?

**Frownland** · 09-02-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Did he call himself a "faggot" though?

Yes. Nah idk, I don't follow Tyler too closely. I'd put my money on him not giving a **** about it though.

Also please don't use that word as it is never non-homophobic.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-02-2018, 12:41 PM

His best verse on that album was on **** On You. Which was also the best track. That was really good.

adidasss · 09-02-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I said in my last post what I was arguing.

I'm not repeating myself, seems you either don't understand or are purposely arguing against a point that doesn't exist.

If you want to discuss what I actually said then I'll discuss it with you.

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Give me an example of someone using "faggot" to describe another person without it being homophobic.

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**Frownland** · 09-02-2018, 07:10 PM

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