I think it's rated just fine

Madvillain, Along with MF Doom, Along with Viktor Vaughn, King Geedorah, and Danger Doom are all overrated.


MF Doom's flow, and subject matter, are lazy and uninteresting, in my opinion

I'm voting MF DOOM for his signature ****, and his alter-ego projects (including Madvillain). IMO you can't vote for Madvillain OVER Doom, unless you think Madlib made Doom or something.

yeah, but he's got decent beats and he doesn't think of himself as god's gift to shitkind.

Beats doesn't make a good rapper.
He's a pretty good producer, but, most of his side projects have other producers.

Still, though.

I'm not voting for someone based on how good they produce, unless they bring equal talent in the lyricism/content of their albums.

Fair point, but it's much more practical to put them all under Doom, his collaborations take up way too much space in the competition. Plus a lot of them are just alter egos, not collabs.

True enough, I just really like Madvillain.

I went Doom.

Disagree.

Oh what the fuck? If Madvillain AND DOOM get through this going to suck.