The Official Eminem/D12 Thread (albums, 50 cent, d12, Tupac)

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

I don't get why everyone is dissing Em.
He is a great rapper. To argue that is stupid.
Who cares what he raps about. He is way past rapping about killing his wife, and even if he does rap about it.....it is just a gimmick.
He isn't going to kill his wife because he wrote a song about it.
The Beatles wrote about living in a submarine.....did they ever live in a submarine?
Quit saying he is a sh*t rapper.
He isn't, and really, as one of the remaining people who could save rap music, why would you want him to be gone?

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[sleepy jack]

I more hate the attention he gets, its a bunch of bullshit.

[pdpeart]

Personally I do feel Em is dope M.C.
But I'm inclined to agree with the guy who said fame has gone to his head.
I mean has anyone actually listened to Encore?
It's bloody garbage in my opinion, 'Lose Yourself' (off the 8Mile sound track) is a classic, 'When I'm Gone'(off his greatest hits) is ok I guess, but I've heard it all before.
And before anyone says anything I think the stuff he did earlier on in his career and his first two albums are legendary, and there are one or two songs on the third but on the whole after his second one he's gone down hill.
And what's with him dressing like a fake gangsta these days? Velour tracksuits? Doo-Rags? wearing Platinum and Ice?
He's on a newish song with this old school guy from Detroit(can't remember his name but he's wack) which Em produced and on the Hook Em's talking about Gangstas and Guns, what the ****?
That's not the Em I used to feel or rate as great.

In my opinion he's exposing himself into becoming just another Vannila Ice(if he does nothing about it sharpish).

[R.O. Da CEO]

i like em...

always trying new ****, brought a lot to hip hop including a white audience and probably had the biggest movement in hip hop since the death of pac. d 12 was an ok spin off of him. they went double plat, they did well.

[TrampInaTux]

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

I don't get why everyone is dissing Em.
He is a great rapper. To argue that is stupid.
Who cares what he raps about. He is way past rapping about killing his wife, and even if he does rap about it.....it is just a gimmick.
He isn't going to kill his wife because he wrote a song about it.
The Beatles wrote about living in a submarine.....did they ever live in a submarine?
Quit saying he is a sh*t rapper.
He isn't, and really, as one of the remaining people who could save rap music, why would you want him to be gone?

I think living in a yellow submarine is unlikely to offend anyone. Talking about he will kill his wife and rape his mom, however, will. Rap is about connecting with someone and their life, and I don't think anyone can connect with that. Some of his raps are good, and he certainly has got talent, but he would never save rap music-he is to busy earning money and destroying it. You are right, he is way past rapping about killing his wife-he is now in the stage where he raps about how much he loves his wife. Anyone see a contradiction here? I think if Eminem would just look at why so many people hate him, and began to listen, then he would become much better for it. His ability to rhyme is fantastic, and he has got that special something that all the greats have had. But the thing is, he has now spent to much time making these terrible teeny-bopper pleasing songs that to make a credible song would distance himself from these kids. And to distance himself from them would be to distance himself from his wallet.

[Scarlett O'Hara]

Originally Posted by Crazy Luv

wow, okay, say that he lost the "plot", but you took it a lil too far when you said fame went to his head. thats the last thing you could say about eminem.


He has a cute voice when he sings, have you heard Hailies song.

His voice isn't cute.

I think he needs to get some new material. And some of the posts in here...

[pdpeart]

Originally Posted by hobojesus

I think living in a yellow submarine is unlikely to offend anyone. Talking about he will kill his wife and rape his mom, however, will. Rap is about connecting with someone and their life, and I don't think anyone can connect with that.

Good point.

[anticipation]

Isnt he ***?

and if not, then why was he kissin' 50 cent?


**** that honky.

[riseagainstrocks]

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

He isn't going to kill his wife because he wrote a song about it.
The Beatles wrote about living in a submarine.....did they ever live in a submarine?

I won't argue the merits of him rapping, because to be honest I rather like some of his songs.

but you're applying terrible logic to the quoted statement. It's called a fallacy. Saying that "this is ok/allowed/accepted so that should also be ok/allowed/accepted" is not the way to argue something. Trust me, I got a lecture in that when I turned in my rough draft for my research paper.

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

I won't argue the merits of him rapping, because to be honest I rather like some of his songs.

but you're applying terrible logic to the quoted statement. It's called a fallacy. Saying that "this is ok/allowed/accepted so that should also be ok/allowed/accepted" is not the way to argue something. Trust me, I got a lecture in that when I turned in my rough draft for my research paper.

Well, howcome it is ok for a director to make a movie about people being killed, and wifes beaten, but if a song is written about it, everyone takes it seriously?