The Official Eminem/D12 Thread (rap, albums, rapper, quote)

[TrampInaTux]

Originally Posted by Crazy Luv

wow, thats ****ing different as whoa.

Eminem does speak his mind, so what the hell.

Being rascist and speaking your mind is 'as different as whoa' aswell. If you were black (which you might be, I'm just guessing that you're not considering your ignorance to this issue) and I turned around to you and called you a stupid n*gga you wouldn't be happy. And then if I went on TV and apologised for it and then everyone forgave me you wouldn't be happy either. Just because Eminem is this 'star' doesn't mean he should get away with things that all us 'little people' would get shot, stabbed and what have you for.

[Crazy Luv]

Originally Posted by hobojesus

Being rascist and speaking your mind is 'as different as whoa' aswell. If you were black (which you might be, I'm just guessing that you're not considering your ignorance to this issue) and I turned around to you and called you a stupid n*gga you wouldn't be happy. And then if I went on TV and apologised for it and then everyone forgave me you wouldn't be happy either. Just because Eminem is this 'star' doesn't mean he should get away with things that all us 'little people' would get shot, stabbed and what have you for.

no, i never said Just because Eminem is this 'star' doesn't mean he should get away with things that all us 'little people' would get shot, stabbed and what have you for. & where did eminem ever say something along the lines of stupid nIgga? yea im black. & still ya said rap was created to speak your mind, & thats what eminem is doing.

[TrampInaTux]

He never. I was giving you an example. If you want to be totally correct then, I will give you the example. Imagine you are a black woman. Now imagine Eminem called all black women hoes. That is exactly what he said. You tell me that he should be allowed to get away with that. And also, you did say that he should be allowed to get away with whatever he likes. Your comment 'Em can speak his mind if he wants too' is basically saying what I said.

[Crazy Luv]

Originally Posted by hobojesus

He never. I was giving you an example. If you want to be totally correct then, I will give you the example. Imagine you are a black woman. Now imagine Eminem called all black women hoes. That is exactly what he said. You tell me that he should be allowed to get away with that. And also, you did say that he should be allowed to get away with whatever he likes. Your comment 'Em can speak his mind if he wants too' is basically saying what I said.

he did & he was ****ing wrong with that, thats when i started to not like him. but that was a while ago & things happened since then. everybody can speak their mind if they want too man. but not whatevery they like. ya putting words in my mouth.

[TrampInaTux]

I'm not putting words in your mouth at all. You said what you said and you were wrong, and I filled you in on that. You're right, he was wrong, and time does go on. But the problem is, he's a big star and a lot of his fan base is black, including his manager and his protoges. So, you would think that someone who many class as a musical genius would think a bit more before he speaks. And the fact that he included that line in a rap shows that it wasn't a throwaway comment as he lead people to believe. He meant it and that was why he put it in the rap. He HAS retired and good riddance I say. He was a heavy anchor weighing down the ship that is rap.

[Crazy Luv]

okay your mad cause you think no one got mad, but ppl. did. no it wasnt a throwaway comment, he was mad & being messed up & all, he let it out that way. He HASNT retired!!!

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

So it`s OK for him to release about 4 albums of him being misogynistic towards women and nobody bats an eyelid yet as soon as it comes out he made one comment about calling somebody a ****** suddenly everybody is shocked.

I don`t get it.

[Crazy Luv]

This is the world we live in.

[TrampInaTux]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

So it`s OK for him to release about 4 albums of him being misogynistic towards women and nobody bats an eyelid yet as soon as it comes out he made one comment about calling somebody a ****** suddenly everybody is shocked.

I don`t get it.

No it's not okay for him to be like that with women. But that was who he was when he entered the scene-women hurt him, so he hurt them. That was what he rapped about-Kim, his Mom. He did have a right to rap about them, because they were people he knew so no-one else was offended. But to categorise a whole race of people and call them all hoes was really below the belt. In his earlier raps about women there was a sense of irony, but with that comment there was no irony. It was harsh and not needed. Kanye Wests recent song 'Gold digger' made a comment 'before he get on and leave your @ss for a white girl'. This was a stupid line to say also-why did he have to call her white? Is it bad to be white? And no-one picked up on that. That really annoyed me. Even though this may sound rascist, but if a white person said that they wouldn't have got away with it. Eminem didn't come straight out before and say 'okay, every woman is a b*tch'. He called individuals b*tches, but never said every woman was. But with his comment about black women, he straight up said every black woman was a ho, not an individual black woman-EVERY BLACK WOMAN. Before he tip-toed around the subject, but now he came out and straight up said it.

[Crazy Luv]

Originally Posted by hobojesus

Kanye Wests recent song 'Gold digger' made a comment 'before he get on and leave your @ss for a white girl'. This was a stupid line to say also-why did he have to call her white? Is it bad to be white? And no-one picked up on that. That really annoyed me. Even though this may sound rascist, but if a white person said that they wouldn't have got away with it.

that part is funny. no its not bad to be white, he aint saying that. maybe they would, its not a fact that "white" ppl. cant say shit like that.