Lil Wayne

AmericanMusicFan · 01-15-2009, 09:00 PM

I totally agree. I have the first two Carters and they're absolutely mediocre compared to Tha Carter III. It's almost like he became a different rapper. He perfected his game, he perfected his marketing technique. I know there are other people like this before him. I'm not saying he was mediocre in general, I'm not saying he wasn't great before. I AM saying his songs and his albums did not work as well before Tha Carter III.

Surell · 01-15-2009, 09:26 PM

I dunno, the Carter 2 was a good album. Tha Mobb is probably the best intro I've heard for an album evar. But I would say the Carter 3 is a presentation of Wayne's maturing/evolving power level in his music. Although it seems like a lot of people see it as a devolution, which confuses the hell out of me.

Have you checked out the Drought is Over 2? It's like the Carter 3, but more basic and with more tracks. Greater than or equal to, to me.

Surell · 01-17-2009, 12:20 AM

Sorry for the double post, but I've been listening to the Carter, and I do see his talent on it. I especially like his more; his voice now is wayyyy to raspy.

Alfred · 01-17-2009, 06:18 PM

I'm about 6 tracks into The Carter III, I'm not really digging.

I downloaded Da Drought 2 as well in case this happened.

~~mjscarousal~~ · 01-17-2009, 06:59 PM

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You also gotta go by sites nowadays and youtube and whatnot. On youtube the biggest videos are from Rihanna (duh) Chris Brown (a little surprising) and Lil Wayne, though the top video of all time is Avril Lavigne of all people...Then again, we're in a day and age where the record gets broken 3 times a year.

Yep, because MTV is the thing of the past now.

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Lil Wayne didn't sell 4 million albums and wasn't the top selling artist of 2008 for nothing. Not for Lollipop. Lollipop was obviously huge, but then you had Mrs. Officer which is gaining in popularity as well as that b.s. featuring on T-Pain's "Can't Believe It" remix. That was auto-tuning at its worst. I hope the trend dies by the end of 2009. with auto-tune, ANYBODY can "sing" but they all sound basically the same.

Agree.
Lil Wayne sold that much because his a popular act, mainstream and he has a well built in audience amoung the youth. His songs were well promoted which has nothing to do with the quality.

Autotune was the worst thing ever invented and the reason why mainstream sucks now.

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That's why I loved the hip-hop from the 90's. Rappers were rappers and R&B guys were R&B guys. Nate Dogg held it down like no other. He was and still is the gold standard for hooks. Shame his life basically fell apart.

You aint lying!!!

90's was where it was at and what modern r&b and rap IS suppose to sound like. The old school stuff before 90s is far superior but the 90's was more descent than the mess they have out now.

On Lil wayne : Lil wayne is just another product of the commerical machine nothing to be taken seriously but if you want to party at a club to his beats its good for that.

Surell · 01-18-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

I'm about 6 tracks into The Carter III, I'm not really digging.

I downloaded Da Drought 2 as well in case this happened.

Get the Drought is Over 2 also. It's sessions for the Carter 3, a lot of good stuff on there. I'll have to get Da Drought 2 myself now, though.

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On Lil wayne : Lil wayne is just another product of the commerical machine nothing to be taken seriously but if you want to party at a club to his beats its good for that.

No, not really.

FaSho · 01-18-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Surell

Get the Drought is Over 2 also. It's sessions for the Carter 3, a lot of good stuff on there.

His best work from The Carters IMO.

Anyways, what did you guys think of the pre-carter albums? They don't get much discussion, which I find odd considering 500 Degreez is my favorite album by him.

Surell · 01-18-2009, 09:31 PM

Yeah, he shoulda kept a ****load of the songs from that album, they were great.

I have 500 Dagreez now, I'll be listening to it soon. I hear it's good from you fellaz.

Myxomatosis · 01-19-2009, 10:01 AM

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Autotune was the worst thing ever invented and the reason why mainstream sucks now.

It was never good....

charliebrwnNC · 01-19-2009, 10:38 AM

Didn't read the whole thread but im surprised nobody said 500 degreez. Check out the track Where you At (track 10). He kills it. Been one of my favs from him for awhile.
And Lights Out.
"if you dont know now you know"

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Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	I'm about 6 tracks into The Carter III, I'm not really digging. I downloaded Da Drought 2 as well in case this happened. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

01-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#281 (permalink)
AmericanMusicFan Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 12	I totally agree. I have the first two Carters and they're absolutely mediocre compared to Tha Carter III. It's almost like he became a different rapper. He perfected his game, he perfected his marketing technique. I know there are other people like this before him. I'm not saying he was mediocre in general, I'm not saying he wasn't great before. I AM saying his songs and his albums did not work as well before Tha Carter III.

01-19-2009, 10:38 AM	#290 (permalink)
charliebrwnNC Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 19	Didn't read the whole thread but im surprised nobody said 500 degreez. Check out the track Where you At (track 10). He kills it. Been one of my favs from him for awhile. And Lights Out. "if you dont know now you know"