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Civic Depreciator 06-16-2008 01:27 PM

I just find it funny that for black people, "******" is a commonly used word in their vocabulary, but for a white person it's blasphemy. And no, I'm not being racist. I don't think anyone should say it is my point.

Piss Me Off 06-16-2008 01:28 PM

So does anyone know why he changed the album name to 'Untitled'?

Sparky 06-16-2008 01:31 PM

@ civic Do you really need an explanation why?

@piss me off

maybe because the record company didn't want the negative publicity?

Civic Depreciator 06-16-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 490807)
@ civic Do you really need an explanation?

Yes.

Sparky 06-16-2008 02:07 PM

Obviously they don't use it in the same sense as it was used all those years ago.

After N.W.A and other's started black people started using it to describe themselves it became common to some people.The whole point was to get rid of the "power" of the word.

So of course if you (who im assuming is a white dude) say it to a black man its going to sound offensive just based off the history.

And it's not used by all black people. It gets criticized just as much by other black Americans as it does whites.

Civic Depreciator 06-16-2008 03:19 PM

A better solution would be to make the word extinct in general.
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Originally Posted by matious (Post 490830)
And it's not used by all black people. It gets criticized just as much by other black Americans as it does whites.

Those are the kind of people I like. The ones that don't try to carve out their own styles, etc. based on their race. You don't come across them very often. I don't base anything I do off my race.

Sparky 06-16-2008 06:26 PM

Well, what do you want, a medal?

How many people have you talked about this subject with? Just because a select few rappers on mtv are saying it, and some teenagers, doesn't mean a majority of the black population uses that kind-off language.

And even if they do what difference does it make? If they're not using it violently or in a derogatory sense whats the point in criticizing it.

:)
^smiley face to indicate no harsh feelings.
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back on subject.

Re-listning to "illmatic" right now. Haven't been as impressed with the stuff afterwards, but maybe this album will surprise me.

sl1ck 06-16-2008 07:10 PM

I think "Whackmatic" would be a fitting title for Nas' still untitled album.

Civic Depreciator 06-16-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 490886)
How many people have you talked about this subject with?

No one, because I'm white and they would surely go nutso on me if I brought it up.
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Just because a select few rappers on mtv are saying it, and some teenagers, doesn't mean a majority of the black population uses that kind-off language.
True, I'm mostly talking about that demographic because they relate to where I'm at currently.

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And even if they do what difference does it make? If they're not using it violently or in a derogatory sense whats the point in criticizing it.
Why can't I use it in a non-violent or non-derogatory way without causing a scene?

Let's just end this argument right now, because we're clearly not going to reach any sort of resolution. No hard feelings. :)

pheurton 06-17-2008 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Piss Me Off (Post 490805)
So does anyone know why he changed the album name to 'Untitled'?

Something to do with bad press and court cases, although I think the cover speaks for itself.


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