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Best Rappers / Hip-hop Ever
Best Rappers / Hip-hop Ever:
NWA Beastie Boys UTFO Kid Rock Grand Master Flash ICP L L Cool J 2 Live Crew Tech9 Agree? Disagree? Add to the list? |
ICP and Kid Rock?
wtf? |
Public Enemy is a glaring omission and I'm with GJ, Kid Rock is terrible.
The Roots. A Tribe Called Quest. |
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Who are THEY? |
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Biggie Smalls is pretty much the most skilled MC of all time, better than everybody in that initial list by a cake walk.
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The Roots
Mos Def / Black Star WU TANG <--- #1 Pete Rock |
nobody ever mentions Talib Kweli or Gang Starr.
Guru is teh **** boiiiiiiii. |
I gave Talib a mention.
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He's boring.
I'm an Aesop Rock and Sage Francis stalewart. |
Mad love to Aesop Rock, but I really dont like Sage anymore.
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Kid Rock is actually pretty good and doesn't get the credit he should be getting.....but I wouldn't put him near any best of lists though.
I don't get why everyone loves Aesop Rock....his cadence gets on my nerves..... I'd say Sage and atomsphere are alright but I wouldn't put them up there either.....they'd be near the bottom of my best of list my best of list would include Common Talib Lupe Mos Def Pharoah Chamillionaire Nas and that's about it. |
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SPECIALLY chamillionaire-wtf? |
his cadence....his flow....the way he spits....it's annoying and sounds like a typical white rapper....it's just off....
chamillionaire doesn't get as much credit as he deserves...his first album won a grammy and he second deserves to win a grammy also but I don't think he will. I'm guessing you've never listened to any of his albums in full. you just hear his singles and judge him off of them. |
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Your right, i haven't listened to an album of his in entirety. Neither have i of Lil' Wayne or the Ying Yang twins, but a the few songs i have listened to, recommended to me in fact, didn't stand out as being anything exciting. I'm just curious as to how much politics have an effect on your like of an album. Is a song like "trying to catch me riding dirty" really that insightful, or am i missing something? As for Aesop, your right. Hes about as white and emo as a rapper can get. I hated him at first as well, i thought he just tried to scramble as many words he could to make him sound original. But when you actually brake it down it pretty impressive, he writes 10x times the amount of lyrics in each tune compared to the average rap songwriter. Though i disagree about his flow, have you listened to his recent stuff or early stuff? cuz he sounds quite pissed and frustrated in the early work, but now he seems to calm and boring, a little to pleased with himself. But he likes Legend of Zelda-so its all good :P |
Okay, favorite cheesy fun rap...
Fresh Prince MC Hammer |
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The Sound of Revenge was geared more towards him introducing himself since it's his debut and pointing out the fact that people shouldn't hate on all southern rappers because they are some talented/skillful lyricists down there. Yeah I know, people love to trash the grammys nowadays but sometimes they give it to people for the right reasons. The grammys isn't about who sold the most on soundscan. The Ultimate Victory was a huge step up for him and this album was more "political". He could release about 10 tracks off of that album and they would shoot to number one. Hip Hop Police being released as the first single was just a marketing strategy move for him to put out his most catchy single to get people's attention and it's almost in the same vein as riding dirty so he'll get all those ring tone sales again also. If you listen to the tracks called Morning News and Evening News....you'll get all the "political" type material on just those two tracks alone. Even Hip Hop Police is speaking about what's really out there. They have divisions of the police department dedicated to following rappers and keeping tabs on them. Guess what the name of the division is called? As far as Aesop Rock goes...I barely made it through his tracks. I listen to a few of his older material and some of her latest stuff. He just doesn't appeal to me. |
I hope the thread starters list was a joke...
No one has even mentioned KRS One or Rakim yet. |
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Big L is the best/most talented there has ever been or will ever be though the Wu-Tang Clan are definitely my favorite hip-hop If we are talking about "greatness", it's Rakim followed by fellas like Nas and KRS-One |
Real rap isn't gangsta nonsense. It's political messages spoken with cadence.
Sad thing is there's a generation of youth who think that all rap stands for is guns, sex, and drugs. |
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Not all rap was meant to have political messages....you may think that and that's fine but it's not true. rap to me is used to speak about anything that the artist wants usually in a poetic form but not all rappers are that good to use metaphors, alliterations, symbolism and all those other poetry terms. |
I agree that rap can be about any message. Still, riseagainstrocks has a good point. It's nice when the lyrics are about something meaningful, deep, or useful rather than trash.
That's part of what I liked about Grand Master Flash ... The Message, Survival, New York New York, etc. Even so, good music is good music even if the message is pathetic or a bad influence on the young and ignorant. |
You are all omitting The Beastie Boys, they have great flow and even Chuck D said that the dirtiest secret in hip-hop in the late 80's and early 90's was that the Beastie Boys had all of the best beats
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yea agree Talib is really good.
The list up top is wack, 2 live crew they was always over the top and degrading to me. Kid Rock... ahh nuff said. These folks are pretty good Lupe Fiasco Wu tang Nas Tupac Mos def Rakim Run dmc common Biggie |
NWA
Nas 2PAC BIG |
I think the best are snoop dogg, jay-z, eminem, beastie boys and i think T.I is on his way to becoming a legend
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others
Public Enemy, LL CoolJay, Slick Rick, Run DMC, and The Tribe called quest are probably my favorites.
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im all for Tech N9ne. they have a unique sound to them which makes them very likeable. I liek Caribou Lou only because of Kutt Calhoun.
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El-P. I love his work on Company Flow's Funcrusher Plus, as well as his solo stuff.
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Biggie Smalls all the way!!!! Some come close, but they cant touch...
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MF Doom
2pac Public Enemy Run DMC Nas That's mine for now. |
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but really, I've got to go with kanye west (college dropout), Dr Dre (2001), snoop dog (doggy style)
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one of the most promising rappers on the Stones Throw roster, and along with Madlib & the late J Dilla he's a pretty fine producer as well. he is 1/2 of Madvillain and formerly 1/3 of KMD. |
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well, his next album is apparently coming out on Lex Records, tentativley titled "Born Into This" and slated for release in October of this year. his association with Lex would also explain his appearance on jnerio's new album "The Shape of Broad Minds", who is a large part of Lex records.
i know in the past that doom has collab'd with nature sound and rhymesayers, as well as shaman work, but i think his primary label is stones throw. |
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