The ONLY Kanye West Thread (hip-hop, metal, rap, genre)

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 03:12 PM

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Most of that commercial so called gangsta rap is shít

except kanye west isn't gangsta rap.

jackhammer · 09-10-2007, 03:50 PM

^^
Show's then that I know nothin' about commercial rap, and that's the way I like it!

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 03:52 PM

kanye west is the only decent commercial rap artist on the radio. to lump him in with the rest is stupid.

jackhammer · 09-10-2007, 03:57 PM

Why is it? I don't like him, and my son is well into this sort of music, so I have heard plenty enough to form an opinion. He strikes me as no different to the rest. THE GAME is gangsta (?) rap, and he is tolerable. I much prefer stuff like Talib Kweli, Mos Def and Busdriver.

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 04:01 PM

You just made my point for me. No one will ever compare Kanye West and the Game.
Kanye West is the exact same style of rap as Talib Kweli, that is probably his number one comparison actually. Talib Kweli is featured in a ton of his songs.

Kanye West, Talib Kweli, Common, etc. are one type of rap

the Game, 50 Cent, etc. are another type.

anticipation · 09-10-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

Kanye West, Talib Kweli, Common, etc. are one type of rap

that might be the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

kweli is nothing like kanye, and common may be similar to him but not the same style.

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 04:04 PM

kweli is nothing like kanye? do you have ears or are you just playing devils advocate?

anticipation · 09-10-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

kweli is nothing like kanye? do you have ears or are you just playing devils advocate?

Compare Kweli's "The Manifesto" to Kanye's "Gold Digger", and they sound nothing alike.
The main difference between the two, is that Kanye raps primarily about hoes and capitalism,
while Kweli raps about issues and polical/racial events.

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 04:12 PM

Compare Kweli's "Get By" and Kanye's "Jesus Walks".

Just because you can choose two songs that are polar opposites doesn't mean that the two musicians are not unarguably similar. They are. By your logic no two rappers can be compared to one another. In fact, apparently I couldn't even say that Kweli is similar to...Kweli. Listen to "Guerilla Monsoon Rap", and then listen to "Joy". They sound nothing alike. The subject matter in Kweli's and Kanye's songs are essentially identical. Religion, politics, marijuana, etc.

tdoc210 · 09-10-2007, 04:14 PM

Also, how in the world could you honestly say with a straight face that Kanye mainly raps about hoes and capitalism. Have you actually heard a Kanye song besides Gold Digger and Breath in Breath Out?

09-10-2007, 03:50 PM	#142 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	^^ Show's then that I know nothin' about commercial rap, and that's the way I like it! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-10-2007, 03:52 PM	#143 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	kanye west is the only decent commercial rap artist on the radio. to lump him in with the rest is stupid. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#144 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Why is it? I don't like him, and my son is well into this sort of music, so I have heard plenty enough to form an opinion. He strikes me as no different to the rest. THE GAME is gangsta (?) rap, and he is tolerable. I much prefer stuff like Talib Kweli, Mos Def and Busdriver. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

09-10-2007, 04:01 PM	#145 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	You just made my point for me. No one will ever compare Kanye West and the Game. Kanye West is the exact same style of rap as Talib Kweli, that is probably his number one comparison actually. Talib Kweli is featured in a ton of his songs. Kanye West, Talib Kweli, Common, etc. are one type of rap the Game, 50 Cent, etc. are another type. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-10-2007, 04:04 PM	#147 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	kweli is nothing like kanye? do you have ears or are you just playing devils advocate? __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-10-2007, 04:12 PM	#149 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	Compare Kweli's "Get By" and Kanye's "Jesus Walks". Just because you can choose two songs that are polar opposites doesn't mean that the two musicians are not unarguably similar. They are. By your logic no two rappers can be compared to one another. In fact, apparently I couldn't even say that Kweli is similar to...Kweli. Listen to "Guerilla Monsoon Rap", and then listen to "Joy". They sound nothing alike. The subject matter in Kweli's and Kanye's songs are essentially identical. Religion, politics, marijuana, etc. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

09-10-2007, 04:14 PM	#150 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	Also, how in the world could you honestly say with a straight face that Kanye mainly raps about hoes and capitalism. Have you actually heard a Kanye song besides Gold Digger and Breath in Breath Out? __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.