Kanye or 50? Who's better? Why? (lyrics, hip-hop, albums, John Lennon)

lucifer_sam · 08-07-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Leeman

Kanye, on the other hand is simply a musical genius. He creates all of his own beats.

Except the ones he doesn't create...which is pretty much all of them. Not to mention he's a terrible emcee and is overrated by his fellow rappers and fans. So no, I wouldn't call him a musical genius, in any sense. There's too many good hip-hop artists out there like El-P, Nas, and Wu-Tang to call a hack like Kanye a genius.

ProggyMan · 08-07-2008, 11:23 PM

Don't be ridiculous, he was a producer before he became a rapper.

Friday · 08-08-2008, 05:36 AM

In Kanye's defence, 'Slow Jamz' is the only modern R&B song that I think has any merit at all. And that's down to his production.

Dr_Rez · 08-08-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Except the ones he doesn't create...which is pretty much all of them. Not to mention he's a terrible emcee and is overrated by his fellow rappers and fans. So no, I wouldn't call him a musical genius, in any sense. There's too many good hip-hop artists out there like El-P, Nas, and Wu-Tang to call a hack like Kanye a genius.

Hahaha As proggy said, he started as a producer. So who do you think makes all his music...come on now.

lucifer_sam · 08-08-2008, 05:15 PM

I understand he was a producer before he was a rapper. I'm not knocking him for that (and I think he was damn good at it too). He didn't create all his own beats, though, and if you're gonna call Kanye a good hip-hop artist for being a good producer, then Rick Rubin is an AMAZING hip-hop artist. Never mind the fact that he's an overweight, middle aged white man with less emceeing skills than my deaf grandfather.

Sparky · 08-09-2008, 05:51 AM

i wish he would only produce and let the good guys do the rapping for him.

He could still have plenty of credit and recognition if he did it under a new title, like what danger mouse did with 'gnarles barkley, or like madvilliany'

win-win

Dmizz · 08-09-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalchuker@hotmail.com

gotta go with 50, just cause kanyes rymes all sound the same he does have bangin beats though

Are you serious? fifty repeats everything its either money sex violence and drugs fifty is a stereotypical rapper and kanye at least tries to be different

Disturbed2008 · 08-11-2008, 03:45 PM

I love both these artists n i would say
50's music is better but kanye has the better lyrics, however they are both great artists

daddydollarz · 08-11-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

The point is he wanted to get our opinions.

lmao..i like tha latter of the quotes..
personally i like kayne better..mean they rap about different thing..kayne is more materialistic to a certain extent..however mr west delivers good messages in most of his songs.."diamonds r forever" that right there was craZy..look up the lyrics kids!!!!

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Originally Posted by Disturbed2008

I love both these artists n i would say
50's music is better but kanye has the better lyrics, however they are both great artists

so what your saying is that kayne should use 50's music (beats)????????

make sense to me....

Dr_Rez · 08-12-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by daddydollarz

lmao..i like tha latter of the quotes..
personally i like kayne better..mean they rap about different thing..kayne is more materialistic to a certain extent..however mr west delivers good messages in most of his songs.."diamonds r forever" that right there was craZy..look up the lyrics kids!!!!

so what your saying is that kayne should use 50's music (beats)????????

make sense to me....

He definitely not more materialistic. 50 cent is the king of rapping about money. Take his new song for instance...I get Money.

08-08-2008, 05:36 AM	#173 (permalink)
Friday Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dear Old Blighty Posts: 253	In Kanye's defence, 'Slow Jamz' is the only modern R&B song that I think has any merit at all. And that's down to his production. __________________ www.myspace.com/ch3ssclub

08-08-2008, 05:15 PM	#175 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	I understand he was a producer before he was a rapper. I'm not knocking him for that (and I think he was damn good at it too). He didn't create all his own beats, though, and if you're gonna call Kanye a good hip-hop artist for being a good producer, then Rick Rubin is an AMAZING hip-hop artist. Never mind the fact that he's an overweight, middle aged white man with less emceeing skills than my deaf grandfather. __________________ first.am

08-07-2008, 11:23 PM	#172 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Don't be ridiculous, he was a producer before he became a rapper.

08-09-2008, 05:51 AM	#176 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	i wish he would only produce and let the good guys do the rapping for him. He could still have plenty of credit and recognition if he did it under a new title, like what danger mouse did with 'gnarles barkley, or like madvilliany' win-win

08-11-2008, 03:45 PM	#178 (permalink)
Disturbed2008 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: St.Helens Posts: 8	I love both these artists n i would say 50's music is better but kanye has the better lyrics, however they are both great artists