Where do you see rap in the next 20 years?
 

Same commercial sh*t? Or is rap going to head back to its roots? Or will everything just be blends by then. For example a rock/rap mixed genre taking over? What kind of rap do you think your kids will be listening to?

Personally I don't know, but i'm hoping rap will become more lyrical, and less commercial. :hphones: :pimp:

It looks like it's getting more and more commercial everyday.
In twenty years I imagine there won't be an underground

Sad really

Usually in any genre there`s a reaction to what the stale mainstream is putting out.

With so many rap artists putting out lame remixes of 80s & 90s tunes , clothing lines , appearing in movies and basically just taking the money & running I think hip hop is primed & ready for an underground movement to burst the bubble and show up some of these 'stars' for exactly what they are.

I can imagine that there would be another 2Pac and Biggie Small fiasco then

It's hard to make any prediction of the underground scene/movement. In time most underground will probably "sell-out" and become commercial. Probably because mainstream artists are going to get fewer and fewer, and who better to take their place?

But if they're any good then commcercial rap won't get as bad.

Look at Nas. He's mainstream but good.

Very true. But look at Nas' whole career, when was it the strongest? Do you see a trend with rap artists, that when they start out (ie rookie albums, earlier cds) they are spittin fire, and generally start to fall off? Maybe become more commercialized? Maybe run out of sh*t to say?

The industry usually changes a rappers focus and style. But, if it weren't for this and underground became commercial...the sh*t would be fire and rap music would "survive."


**As a side note tho, Im hella excited for his new album under Def Jam, I hear jigga is makin an appearence on it..

But Nas is still better than a lot fo the rookies emerging on the scene.

Nas vs

50 cent
the game
chingy

= Nas

I won't go as far as to say he's better than Jay-Z because my opinion will be a little biased sice I don't care too much for Jay-Z's lyrics or his beats but I do aknowledge the fact that he's better than a lot of other rappers.

Samples will become public domain once again and people can start bringing it up to the level that it used to be at before sampling was outlawed. Then all would be right with the world.

*sigh*

Hopefully it goes back to underground, because the mainstream **** they're producing today just doesn't exemplify its original roots at all.

VERY TRUE! People coming out now in the rap scene are garbage. Nas is ONE of the best lyricists out now, hands down.

Chingy is straight trash..50, trash, the Game is aight.

Jay-Z is one of my fav rappers of all time, i think dude can spit.

^

About Jay-Z, I concur

cLOUDDEAD is the future of hip-hop. Actually, probably not. But that would be cool.

I don't quite agree with your opinion on the Game. I think he doesn't have a place amongst some of the best rappers ever.
I prefer him over 50, but then that isn't saying much because i'll choose anything over 50

I don't think Game has sh*t on any good rapper, but he did get the west back on the map. He was advertised well, and people responded to him well. He's mainly an entertainer, I wouldn't really consider him a good rapper or nothin.

But, I went to How The West Was Won, small little tour in the west coast and it was OoWee (yes that's dudes name) and Snoop and Game. And that was one of the best concerts ive ever been to in my life..but that's a lil :offtopic:

I hope it goes back to its roots. Or I just wish the commercial scene will die.

Best concert I went to featuring rappers was Anger Management a few years ago. That was nice. This was back when Eminem was still in his prime.

And most rappers today are nothing but entertainers.
Although I fear I might have to make an exception where Ludacris is concerned.

Um I'm sorry but aren't all musicians are entertainers? And if you're just talking about gimmics and stage antics all music has that too.

Yeah all musicians are entertainers.

What I meant was how must rappers today aren't musicians so much as they are comedians.
And I wasn't considering gimmics and stage antics when I wrote that particular post. I was focusing solely on the music (and lack thereof) aspect of today's rappers

^ thank you Snickers. I just lost my vision.

There's no reason in the world for some guy's teeth to shine like the sun.
I was blinded momentarily.

And I don't think of Nelly as a rapper. he seems like a big softy.
he's kinda cute though. ALthough he's got to do something about those teeth

All musicians ARE entertainers, but if that's ALL you are, then you are garbage. you aren't an artist, you're an entertainer. you should just sing and dance and perform. doesn't necessarily mean you got good lyrics..but i see where you comin from.

I'm thinkin bout gettin a grill.. :laughing:

Nah but for real..you made a good point. he's all about appereance now, rather than the music.

But i'm sure when he first came out you were feelin his music, cuz it was new and original. now its stale and repetitive

Wow, you're a moron.

Rap will be, if anything, more underground than what it is today. The amount of commercial rap is far outweighed by the amount of underground rap around these days.

That is so so so wrong.

:laughing:

There will never be such a thing as a dead underground.

Underground is the fuel of the commercial world. If the underground dies then the commercial will bomb with it.

So you think commercial rap today is a good example of true rap? or a good example of rap's roots? NO!YOU'RE WRONG.

and if anything, sh*t is going to be more commercial before they are more underground. labels need new heads, and they will get them from the underground.

thnk of all the underground groups goin commercial. and think of all the underground groups that are respectable and actually have a good fan base..a handful practically..

I`m not the biggest hip hop fan around but I used to get at least 5/10 hip hop albums a year.

I`ve probably bought 5 over the past few years and those are ones that i`ve been reccommended rather than ones i`ve heard & liked.

Quite honestly i`ve never been so apathetic towards a genre of music as much as I am now to mainstream hip hop.

Well that's all a matter of opinion. Twenty years from now they may perhaps be an underground, but I doubt the number of quality underground rappers in the US will ever outnumber the many (talentless) rappers the US spews forth at a rather alarming rate.

Exactly

No its not, the amount of rappers in either scene (as of now) isn't an opinion. You can't just make certain people not exist just because you have an opinion. Now a matter of opinion, would be the later part of your post. I'm pretty much just gonna hope with snickers on this subject.

and what is your opinion of where the rap scene will be in 20 years?

I saw that you were making a post about yet another one of mine but no where in there did I see what you though of rap or anything pertaining or pertinent to the contribution of this thread.

Oh and ps:
i didn't make up numbers nor did i mention any. quote me if i did.

Not really the point, you said something that could (maybe even is, im not a huge expert on rap so i'm not gonna say) be completely factual was a matter of opinion. You of all people really shouldn't lecture any person about what they do and don't contribute.

No, the underground right now is and will always be larger than the mainstream. It may seem like there are a billion horrible commercial rappers out right now, but they make up a small percentage of the entire genre. The mainstream of every genre represents such a small talent pool that it's ridiculous. While you only get a few new "big" commercial rappers every year from the same major labels, the underground Rap scene exists on a multitude of labels worldwide with many, many different rappers. The underground will never disappear.

I think that 20 years from now commercial Rap will still be popular, but there will have been a new trendy mainstream genre to take it's place at the top of the charts. The underground scene will still thrive, but will never receive the attention it deserves except for with a few "breakthrough" artists, like it is today.

^
I concur.

rap evolution
 

rap will be chills in 20 years...
there will be commercial shizz...always is...it will vary....good though

What the **** are you talking about??

Yeah, wtf does this mean??

i think someone new will come into the rap game with something so different and so groundbreaking, artists will begin to adapt that and then rap will sway that way. i.e. grime hip hop in england

The Rich getting Richer....

If thats the case, then I pray that my children are born deaf.