Black Eyed Peas

djchameleon · 02-07-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by matious

I swear black eyed pea's is a what happens after years of focus-testing in labs and finding something that will appeal to every demographic. You got singing and sex appeal with fergie, corney rapping and autotune BS with will.i.am, and even a random native american dude in there for extra measure. Every single song is just some general party term, LETS GET IT STARTED

it didn't start out that way though, their first two albums are pretty awesome. You should give them a listen before completely dismissing them all together. You are basing that statement off of what made them more popular and when Fergie was added to the group.

~~RandyMarsh~~ · 02-07-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

how so? and on each album they always have a song similar to "where is the love?" where they make a social commentary track.

One song on an entire album? And it's never the single is it? All they seem to care about now is what will make them the most money, they don't care about the art. If it sells they'll rap about it.

~~Dirty~~ · 02-07-2011, 11:05 AM

So-so Superbowl performance by them I thought. Nothing great, didn't think it was terrible though. The dancers and lights and everything were pretty cool though. I feel like the two guys who aren't Fergie and Will.I.Am are just token members who are lucky enough to be in the band. Lol, they hardly do anything it seems like.

djchameleon · 02-07-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

One song on an entire album? And it's never the single is it? All they seem to care about now is what will make them the most money, they don't care about the art. If it sells they'll rap about it.

yep one single per album. They have perfected their formula and it works for them. Sure, they are making money from it and it's not as focused on the art. The whole "doing it for the art instead of making money for performing" thing is a bit cliche and dated imo. The whole being a broke artist isn't fun. In the immortal words of Jigga. "went from the favourite to the most hated, but would you rather be underpaid or over-rated? Morale victories is for Minor League Coaches, and 'Ye already told you We Major, you ****roaches!"

~~RandyMarsh~~ · 02-07-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

yep one single per album. They have perfected their formula and it works for them. Sure, they are making money from it and it's not as focused on the art. The whole "doing it for the art instead of making money for performing" thing is a bit cliche and dated imo. The whole being a broke artist isn't fun. In the immortal words of Jigga. "went from the favourite to the most hated, but would you rather be underpaid or over-rated? Morale victories is for Minor League Coaches, and 'Ye already told you We Major, you ****roaches!"

There's nothing wrong with making money. But changing yourself, your music, your art, just because you're forced to by some record exec or because you're geting greedy, that's a sellout.

And Jay-Z always has been overrated, he sucks, he's one of the worst rappers in mainstream history, he has zero lyrical ability. He's a good businessman (and a half decent producer) but that's about it.

In the Immortal words of Pez;

"Okay the mic's on, fans watch and wait. Everyones listening, what to say? He's got ideas all across the page but he won't be using none of them, not today. Why? 'Cause I don't care' is what he tells himself, all I care about is trying to make this album sell. And now it's to late to yell for help, because he signed that contract and it's a con - fact! He's gotta do what he's told, and let them use up his soul so the units are sold. Why would they let the music evolve when it's safer to just fit the usual mould? ...

...All he wanted was the hall of the fame, but now he's just another pawn in the game who got...

..LOST! In the world of the stars with the girls and the cars, he's lost! And he wants that dream but he's unable to see he's lost! Now on the road THEY map so there's no way back, he's lost..."

Burning Down · 02-07-2011, 03:13 PM

There's also another discussion thread on their half-time performance: http://www.musicbanter.com/media/542...ast-night.html

Personally, I thought it was horrible.

djchameleon · 02-07-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

So-so Superbowl performance by them I thought. Nothing great, didn't think it was terrible though. The dancers and lights and everything were pretty cool though. I feel like the two guys who aren't Fergie and Will.I.Am are just token members who are lucky enough to be in the band. Lol, they hardly do anything it seems like.

the other two guys usually get some tracks on their albums where they are featured and it focuses on them and their culture.

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

There's nothing wrong with making money. But changing yourself, your music, your art, just because you're forced to by some record exec or because you're geting greedy, that's a sellout.

That whole sellout stuff is a load of crap. Artistic Integrity doesn't pay the bills.

Engine · 02-07-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

That whole sellout stuff is a load of crap. Artistic Integrity doesn't pay the bills.

Huh? So .. why be an artist then?
There are many lucrative trades out there that offer a decent salary. You could be a tire builder for instance.
I'd rather do that than be a musician who makes crap music in my own name just for a paycheck.

Sparky · 02-07-2011, 06:25 PM

a decent salary sure, but not fame and access to unlimited ho's

just sayingc

djchameleon · 02-07-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

Huh? So .. why be an artist then?
There are many lucrative trades out there that offer a decent salary. You could be a tire builder for instance.
I'd rather do that than be a musician who makes crap music in my own name just for a paycheck.

because by doing what needs to be done to get the paycheck then you are able to take artistic liberties later on and experiment to your heart's content.

02-07-2011, 11:05 AM	#53 (permalink)
~~Dirty~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA Posts: 981	So-so Superbowl performance by them I thought. Nothing great, didn't think it was terrible though. The dancers and lights and everything were pretty cool though. I feel like the two guys who aren't Fergie and Will.I.Am are just token members who are lucky enough to be in the band. Lol, they hardly do anything it seems like.

02-07-2011, 03:13 PM	#56 (permalink)
Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	There's also another discussion thread on their half-time performance: http://www.musicbanter.com/media/542...ast-night.html Personally, I thought it was horrible.

02-07-2011, 06:25 PM	#59 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	a decent salary sure, but not fame and access to unlimited ho's just sayingc