Zeitgeist presented me with the same problem too. People tend to think of you as a paranoid schizo, because youre espousing ideas that drastically conflict w/ their reality. I found myself doing the same thing when I watched the Obama Deception the other night. You think its hard getting a receptive audience for Zeitgeist? Well, if you havent already seen The Obama Deception you should and then wait for people to accuse you of being a right-wing neo-con. republican when you try to talk about it.
I find That just like the body the mind has its own sort of homeostasis where people's paradigm's of reality can't be radically alterred all at once, and just as the body will reject a new organ If not given adequate conditions to acclimate to it, The mind will reject new ideas if it's too much of a radical departure, or if it clashes with their own ideology. Start with the most plausible least threatening concept and work outward from there.

Yeah, its another one of those fucked-up tales about a band with great intent and drive that eventually got wrecked in the politics of the music industry. Basically, the entire band took the opportunity to franchise the name except for Jello Biafra. The other members basically locked him out of the decision making after they broke up and now we have "Holiday in Cambodia" on Guitar Hero, YAY!!:banghead:
While Jello wasn't the greatest frontman/singer of all time, I guess it ended up being him who had the most honest integrity out of the other members.

Top 5 Dead Kennedys Songs

1. Pull My Strings
2. Chemical Warfare
3. Too Drunk to Fuck
4. We've got an even bigger problem now
5. The Man With the Dogs/Let's Lynch the Landlord - tie

Indeed, I have definitely learned how to do that. Being the nerd that I am, I really enjoy your organ/idea metaphor. It fits together nicely. Yeah, I have't see The Obama Deception, but have already been accused of being racist for not buying into his ****. But this topic should be for another thread. ;)

I SAW you playing it. Don't lie to your e-friends!!!! :nono:

I've always put Bedtime for Democracy as my favorite DK album, but Frankenchrist is giving it a run for its money.

The In God We Trust EP was my first DK album. Still probably my favorite. I really liked all of their albums except Plastic Surgery Disasters, for some reason that one didn't click with me.

i can't seem to find the In God We Trust EP or Plastic Surgery Disasters anywhere, a little help please? :(

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I agree with In God We Trust Inc. being the best. When I was dumb, I bought it in on vinyl and I got some ****ty repress, but I still love it. Even when Jello didn't write the lyrics and they turned out really juvenile (Religious Vomit), they still had the intensity and anger that made you want to join in.

Some of Jello's spoken word stuff is tight, too, when he isn't getting too much rambling into it.

Lard have some good stuff, wouldn't mind hearing his albums with NoMeansNo either.
Have a tremendous amount of respect for his work with Alternative Tentacles, great label



edit: it wasn't until like 8 years after i got the Offspring's 'Ixnay on the Hombre' that i realised it's Biafra in the 'disclaimer' at the beginning, yay

I heard Jello Biafra and The Guantanamo School of Medicine a little while ago. Pretty good stuff. I also dug the albums he did with The Melvins as well. But as far as punk rockers go, you can't beat the energy they had when they were young.

I agree; Jello's losing a little steam but GSOM is still absolutely amazing live, I saw them in Sac not too long ago.

My favorite album will always be Frankenchrist. If not for the album itself, for the sweet-ass HR Giger print that it comes with.

I love the Dead kennedys. They have been one of the most influential bands to me since I got into punk and hardcore. Bedtime for democracy is one of my favorite albums. Absolutely amazing band

weren't they playing reunion shows a few years ago? except without Jello Biafra, with that Jeff Penalty guy on vocals. I'm sure I remember that, they could well still be playing for all I know. That said, DK without Biafra is just ridiculous, he IS the band to a large extent. I highly doubt the original lineup will ever get back together though.

i remember hearing something about them getting together with Brandon Cruz of Dr. Know on vocals a couple years back...but honestly can't remember if it ever actually happened

i have to agree that the idea of reuniting without Jello is just ridiculous

Yeah, they did tours up until last year I think, they all decided to take a break.

They're doing more shows in October. I don't know if they're with Brandon or not, but it's not like they miraculously reunited with Jello.

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I have to say I'm not remotely interested in seeing the Dead Kennedys without Jello, although it'd be good to see East Bay Ray kick oot the jams. But nah.

I won't say Jello made the band, but without him, it's just not the same. It's like the Misfits with Danzig, it just seems wrong.

Jello for president! Guantanomo was amazing - especially the song "Terror of tiny town". My favorite Dead Kennedys record is probably Frankenchrist and my favorite spoken word is "High Priest of Harmful matter". I can't get over how funny he makes his court case seem.

They kicked Jello out of the band, so, they could sell out the corporations, and Jello would not allow that.

Now, The Dead Kennedys have sold out, and put Holiday in Cambodia on guitar hero, which Jello Biafra would never have stood for.

Jello Biafra did everything; he wrote all of the songs, sung them, and made them funny, and what do the rest of the band do; kick him out of the band, take his band, steal the rights to the songs he wrote, and take all his money; they are extremly selfish.

I remember when all the court crap was going on. Bands always get screwed.

The rest of the Kennedys can suck a water hose, Biafra is the only real member.

:rolleyes:

I've never understood why are DK often labeled as HARDCORE punk.
Compared to the bands as Black Flag, Bad Brains, Discharge, Minor Threat, The Exploited they don't sound hardcore, just regular punk rock.
I find no hardcore in the sound of Holiday in Cambodia, Kill the Poor or Too Drunk to Fu*k.