the OP should of said "I do not mean to sound sexist..... but I am" cause the whole statement is quite sexist.





these 3 songs come to mind right away, and feature excellent female vocals.

could post stuff from the likes of: Wendy O. Williams, Lydia Lunch, L7 and more... but I think those 3 videos will do.

What the **** about Brody Dalle - she sings punk, and kicks ass!

Brody would be alright to me, if she didn't spend all of her time trying to be Courtney Love.

I disagree - if you've listened to the Distillers' first albums, it's quite obvious that it's punk, and not as boring as **** as Courtney Love and Hole ...

girl from paramore! hot!

naw. I listened to my share of both bands. Hole made great albums, forgetting about that last turd she dropped under the Hole name, which which actually a solo album anyways she just put the name on to sell more to people who wanted a new Hole album.



"Pretty on the Inside" was a good album, much in the style of noise rock, which owed more to bands like Sonic Youth than it did to the grunge movement of that time. It may be a tad bit dated now, but it is good none the less.

"Live Through This" is a good album as well, not much else to say on it, but it is still a good listen to this day.

"Celebrity Skin" is my favorite, a more mature album, with a good pop sensibility to it. "Northern Star", "Dying" and "Best Sunday Dress" (found on Japanese import version) are some of the best stuff they have done.

Hole was a great band, just a shame Courtney will always be remembered as the wife of Kurt Cobain, before she is remembered as the frontwoman of Hole in many peoples eyes.

But Brody basically is no more than a Courtney Love wannabe, following in her footsteps. What she did with Tim Armstrong was no different than what Courtney did with Kurt Cobain, used his name to further her own and get more exposure for herself.

I'm not thinking about the way they portray themselves, but how they sing and what kind of music they produce - and in this case the two bands are definitely not the same. The Distillers is more punk-ish whereas Hole can be considered as grunge ... not the same thing. I like both bands but they're not the same in my opinion.

The girls from CIVET kick ass - but that's more of a mix between punk and punk rock.

Grunge is not a style, no matter what is said. Grunge was a term used by critics to define a style that was to differet for them to fit into one style. Even people in Seattle hated that term and how it was used. Grunge was no more than Punk Rock mixed with Sludgey Metal... Kinda like Sex Pistols meets Black Sabbath. It it's core "Grunge" was another type of punk rock. Listen to Green River, Mudhoney, Fluid or Blood Circus to name a few. Very much inspired by Punk Rock.

The two are not that different. Hole may not have fit in with the bands mentioned above.. but they still do owe a lot to punk rock.

Come on, everything about Distillers is just Hole worship. Even Brody's voice sounds almost just like Courtney most of the time.

Agree