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The Booman 04-02-2020 05:37 PM

This thing called punk...Where do I start?
 
I know a little. Very little. Mostly the obvious, most well known bands. I would love some bands to explore. Starting with the early years. So, hit me with the facts!

The Batlord 04-02-2020 05:42 PM

Ramones first three albums
Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks
The Clash's first three albums
Iggy Pop & the Stooges' first three albums
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation
Radio Birdman Radios Appear
Wire - Pink Flag
The Modern Lovers' self-titled

Neapolitan 04-02-2020 05:47 PM

Some of my favorite albums:

Can't Stand The Rezillos: The [Almost] Complete Rezillos
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...2mbMCmAux7QvCo

Minor Threat - Complete Discography Full Album (1989)


7 SecondsThe Crew

The Batlord 04-02-2020 05:53 PM

Especially agree on that Rezillos album.

The Booman 04-02-2020 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2110623)
Ramones first three albums
Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks
The Clash's first three albums
Iggy Pop & the Stooges' first three albums

These I have

Quote:

Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation
Radio Birdman Radios Appear
Wire - Pink Flag
The Modern Lovers' self-titled
These, not a clue. Thanks.

The Booman 04-02-2020 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2110659)
maybe throw on Devo's debut too

Television - Marque Moon

Talking Heads '77

I never considered Devo or Talking heads to be punk.

The Batlord 04-02-2020 07:09 PM

They were definitely part of the movement even if they weren't part of what became the stereotype.

OccultHawk 04-02-2020 07:10 PM

I think you should just go with Pink Flag. It pays great dividends with multiple listenings and it’s interesting from the get-go.

I think it’s what you’re looking for.

OccultHawk 04-02-2020 07:14 PM

If you want two records then add Singles Going Steady by The Buzzcocks

OccultHawk 04-02-2020 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2110681)
Pink Flag is technically not what is thought of as the OG punk sound either with its Art School minimalism

but it's certainly punk to me and unassailable (goes without saying)

It sounds like he’s hip to basics

He’s a sophisticated music fan Pink Flag hits all the right spots

These days everything is so micro-labeled but Wire was introduced to me as a punk band so that’s always how I’ve thought of them

The Batlord 04-02-2020 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2110681)
Pink Flag is technically not what is thought of as the OG punk sound either with its Art School minimalism

but it's certainly punk to me and unassailable (goes without saying)

It's the perfect jumping off point for post-punk. It sounds like a "real" punk band taking a flying leap off that diving board with confidence and vision. So yeah it's definitely a ****ing punk album even by the standard definition afaic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2110683)
If you want two records then add Singles Going Steady by The Buzzcocks

OMG how did I forget about that amazing album? Elph can bitch all he wants about "pop punk" as a term but it describes that album perfectly. A lot of what I associate with pure pop is the exploration of the all-encompassing, maximalistic hook, and Singles Going Steady hits me as hard in that way as Ke$ha, Britney Spears, or Madonna do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2110686)
they hella are

but for a more straight sound you might dig The Zeros too

I think I only listened to them once and thought they sounded like a slowed down Ramones (and I love when the Ramones slow down) and really dug them.

Neapolitan 04-02-2020 07:39 PM

I'm not declaring the first two as Punk band. However I think they are important in my book. The Dictators were on of the first bands that had that sound, and being a drummer you might like the cover of California Sun. Simply Saucer were a band that almost fell into total obscurity. They have a style somewhere between Garage and Punk in sound.

The Dictators Go Girl Crazy! (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkq6...ynPD3I4Z72PJzh

Simply Saucer - Cyborgs Revisited


more hardcore:

Gang Green - Preschool
*collection of early tracks (1981-1983)

SS Decontrol - The Kids Will Have Their Say 1982

Agnostic Front - Victim in Pain (1984)

The Booman 04-02-2020 08:23 PM

Holy crap. You all don't disappoint.

I'm going to start by listening to "Swell Maps" because the name is odd. I always gravitate towards odd.

The Batlord 04-02-2020 08:33 PM

Then you need Pere Ubu in your life on name alone. From the same Ohio scene as Devo and also oddball as ****. Maybe more punk but also more weird.






The Batlord 04-02-2020 08:42 PM

I'll prove you wrong by naming my sailboat after them and crossing the Pacific!

The Booman 04-02-2020 08:57 PM

Isn't Pere Ubu a Sushi restaurant in Marseille?

The Batlord 04-02-2020 09:00 PM

Oh wait, ****, Booman is into jazz? Have the Contortions.






Tristan_Geoff 04-02-2020 09:01 PM

The Raincoats
Monks
Patti Smith
Debris'
MX-80 Sound
Suicide
Tuxedomoon
Magazine
XTC
SPK (early)
The Red Crayola
Contortions
The Pop Group

The Batlord 04-02-2020 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Tristan Rosenstock (Post 2110717)
The Raincoats
Monks
Patti Smith
Debris'
MX-80 Sound
Suicide
Tuxedomoon
Magazine
XTC
SPK (early)
The Red Crayola
Contortions
The Pop Group

**** yes. I'll probably check out a few of those myself. I've basically been heavy on 60s/70s rock for the past year or so while shedding a lot of the classic rock stuff I listened to when I was younger without having the proper old school art rock education to replace those bands I've dropped.

grindy 04-03-2020 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2110748)
I think the only artist on there I'm not familiar with is Debris

It's ****ing awesome and you shoud check it the hell out.
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/al...atic-disposal/

Marie Monday 04-03-2020 02:23 AM

Great suggestions, ones that haven't been mentioned I think:
Joy division - any album or compilation, but Closer if I had to pick one
Gang of four - entertainment
Dead Kennedys - fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
Bikini Kill - the cd version of the first 2 records
X-ray Spex - germ free adolescents
X - los Angeles

Psy-Fi 04-03-2020 05:56 AM

Spoiler for 10 Albums:


https://i.ibb.co/hW0PJvN/H.jpg
Heartbreakers ‎– L.A.M.F. (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/0sH1yMW/TB.jpg
The Boys – The Boys (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/thxDdg8/TRK.jpg
The Real Kids ‎– The Real Kids (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/H4c3RzR/DB.jpg
Dead Boys ‎– Young Loud And Snotty (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/ph5NwZb/TSIV.jpg
The Stranglers ‎– Stranglers IV (Rattus Norvegicus) (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/Kjq0G3F/TSN.jpg
The Stranglers ‎– No More Heroes (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/mhR6Cf2/TSB-W.jpg
The Stranglers ‎– Black And White (1978)

https://i.ibb.co/fDrBDBK/DKoT.jpg
Buzzcocks ‎– A Different Kind of Tension (1979)

https://i.ibb.co/PTtqRgj/SLF.jpg
Stiff Little Fingers ‎– Inflammable Material (1979)

https://i.ibb.co/2Y4zxhL/SLF2.jpg
Stiff Little Fingers ‎– Nobody's Heroes (1980)



The Batlord 04-03-2020 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2110750)
it's ****ing awesome and you shoud check it the hell out.
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/al...atic-disposal/

+1

Psy-Fi 04-04-2020 05:51 AM

Spoiler for A Few More Albums:


https://i.ibb.co/b6sWj82/PM.jpg
The Vibrators - Pure Mania (1977)

https://i.ibb.co/rF2r2dF/SBC.jpg
D.O.A. - Something Better Change (1980)

https://i.ibb.co/TYG6kk3/H81.jpg
D.O.A. - Hardcore 81 (1981)

https://i.ibb.co/yBg03qz/F.jpg
Fear - The Record (1982)


MidnightRambler 06-29-2020 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2110751)
Great suggestions, ones that haven't been mentioned I think:
Joy division - any album or compilation, but Closer if I had to pick one
Gang of four - entertainment

Gang of Four reminds me of Adam Curtis documentaries


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