Black Flag

FRED HALE SR. · 05-22-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by police story

Yeah you missed my point. The statement "no one bought those Off! albums" was sarcastic. People did buy them. I was making the point that Morris is still releasing better music than Reyes (see new Black Flag v. Off! that was the comparison I was making.) The Jealous Again EP is alright, but he had only did a handful of actual noteworthy songs in his entire career. Some of which were done better by the other vocalists. I don't even like to listen to Reyes sing certain songs on Everything Went Black because why bother? Dez did them better.

Why didn't you just say that then and not waste my time? You lost me at anybody being better then Reyes. Agree to disagree. Adios

police story · 05-22-2013, 05:52 PM

I'm sorry to waste your time. I joined this site to discuss music. That's all I was trying to do. It seems weird to me that you admit to liking Off!, you admit the new Black Flag has no balls and the vocalist responsible for what's probably going to be one of the worst punk rock comeback albums ever behind is somehow still, the "best vocalist" Black Flag ever had. I think if that were true, he wouldn't have like...eight songs versus what? Twenty-two new songs? That's like a 3-1 suck-to-good ratio. That doesn't bode well for Reyes legacy. That's the point I was trying to make to you.

FRED HALE SR. · 05-22-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by police story

I'm sorry to waste your time. I joined this site to discuss music. That's all I was trying to do. It seems weird to me that you admit to liking Off!, you admit the new Black Flag has no balls and the vocalist responsible for what's probably going to be one of the worst punk rock comeback albums ever behind is somehow still, the "best vocalist" Black Flag ever had. I think if that were true, he wouldn't have like...eight songs versus what? Twenty-two new songs? That's like a 3-1 suck-to-good ratio. That doesn't bode well for Reyes legacy. That's the point I was trying to make to you and it's kind of annoying the only responses you can muster are: "I like Reyes best therefore he is best and that's the only argument I have."

I'm sorry my argument as you've called it isn't up to par. I always found Morris in BF to not be up to my liking, could be the way their music was mixed on those albums. I think Dez was a decent enough vocalist but I also prefer Reyes to them. I think Reyes has a more raw sounding voice then both of them and it suits the BF songs I like better. OFF is something completely different then BF to me, and yes I do like all of the OFF EPS. I preferred Morris in Circle Jerks I think it was his calling. Rollins is another story, I can stomach the songs he did, but i don't like him fronting on the old songs. I hope this has cleared up the situation. Peace

police story · 05-22-2013, 06:21 PM

Wasted is soo good though. I think the Nervous Breakdown EP is my favorite. I actually agree on Rollins, though I think My War is perfection I don't like listening to Damaged (I have a First Four Years/Everything Went Black playlist with Rise Above/Spray Paint on it) because the songs don't feel like his.

FRED HALE SR. · 05-22-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by police story

Wasted is soo good though. I think the Nervous Breakdown EP is my favorite. I actually agree on Rollins, though I think My War is perfection I don't like listening to Damaged (I have a First Four Years/Everything Went Black playlist with Rise Above/Spray Paint on it) because the songs don't feel like his.

My War was excellent. Yeah I went back and threw on Damaged this weekend and it just doesn't register like it used to. Nervous Breakdown has its moments for sure. Through it all I love BF to death but something always kept me coming back to Reyes as my go to. I have the Everything went black stashed away somewhere, its one of the better retrospectives on their early work. I'm gonna still have to check out the new BF as godawful as the first two songs sound. I can almost get into the second song released, but it feels a little too long. Ginn really hasn't hit me hard with his guitar tone in a long while.

police story · 05-22-2013, 06:41 PM

I'm going to (begrudgingly) listen to it also. I don't know what it is. Ginn has like, flares of greatness now but it's mostly meh. There's this real slow crawl to his riffs that use to be great in their early days (see My War actually) and now it's just like...something about that crawling can get really tedious. He's been missing it with me too. Did you hear the album he released before he announced the Black Flag reunion, by his band Good for You? It makes the new stuff more tolerable but only because it's mind-numbingly bad.

FRED HALE SR. · 05-22-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by police story

I'm going to (begrudgingly) listen to it also. I don't know what it is. Ginn has like, flares of greatness now but it's mostly meh. There's this real slow crawl to his riffs that use to be great in their early days (see My War actually) and now it's just like...something about that crawling can get really tedious. He's been missing it with me too. Did you hear the album he released before he announced the Black Flag reunion, by his band Good for You? It makes the new stuff more tolerable but only because it's mind-numbingly bad.

My friend had it. I vaguely remember it as I was three sheets to the wind. I remember my friend saying this can't be Greg Ginn!!! I just laughed and said yep and now you own it.

police story · 05-22-2013, 06:46 PM

hxxps://soundcloud.com/goodforyou-1/hanging-around

this was their 'single' haha. that sucks. i didn't buy it, i just listened to it and felt embarrassed that i taught myself guitar from the first four years and he released this now.

Justthefacts · 06-05-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danielmorgan

i love the band called black flag and has a huge collection of almost all of its records right at me car which i listen mostly while riding..

Correction: "I love Black Flag. I have a massive collection of their records in my car which I tend to listen to while cruising."

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-05-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove

Correction: "I love Black Flag. I have a massive collection of their records in my car which I tend to listen to while cruising."

Correction, "I like to say I like Black Flag on the internet to look cool and 'punk' but in actuality I have a massive collection of Green Day and NOFX cassette tapes that I play in my ****ty pick up truck that I tend to listen to drown out the sound of my tears while sucking dick to up my street cred even further"

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05-22-2013, 05:52 PM	#292 (permalink)
police story Groupie Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9	I'm sorry to waste your time. I joined this site to discuss music. That's all I was trying to do. It seems weird to me that you admit to liking Off!, you admit the new Black Flag has no balls and the vocalist responsible for what's probably going to be one of the worst punk rock comeback albums ever behind is somehow still, the "best vocalist" Black Flag ever had. I think if that were true, he wouldn't have like...eight songs versus what? Twenty-two new songs? That's like a 3-1 suck-to-good ratio. That doesn't bode well for Reyes legacy. That's the point I was trying to make to you. Last edited by police story; 05-22-2013 at 06:05 PM.

05-22-2013, 06:21 PM	#294 (permalink)
police story Groupie Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9	Wasted is soo good though. I think the Nervous Breakdown EP is my favorite. I actually agree on Rollins, though I think My War is perfection I don't like listening to Damaged (I have a First Four Years/Everything Went Black playlist with Rise Above/Spray Paint on it) because the songs don't feel like his.

05-22-2013, 06:41 PM	#296 (permalink)
police story Groupie Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9	I'm going to (begrudgingly) listen to it also. I don't know what it is. Ginn has like, flares of greatness now but it's mostly meh. There's this real slow crawl to his riffs that use to be great in their early days (see My War actually) and now it's just like...something about that crawling can get really tedious. He's been missing it with me too. Did you hear the album he released before he announced the Black Flag reunion, by his band Good for You? It makes the new stuff more tolerable but only because it's mind-numbingly bad.

05-22-2013, 06:46 PM	#298 (permalink)
police story Groupie Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9	hxxps://soundcloud.com/goodforyou-1/hanging-around this was their 'single' haha. that sucks. i didn't buy it, i just listened to it and felt embarrassed that i taught myself guitar from the first four years and he released this now.