Attempt to get me into post-punk.

Maajo · 01-26-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

No one method will be one-size-fits-all. I still have yet to see you demonstrate that subgenres are without value beyond misconceptions and goalpost moving.

If they hold value to you then that's fine, I never said that they shouldn't hold value to anyone - but they only hold social value to me, which is due in part to the marketing that I was discussing to begin with. Also, I don't think you've demonstrated how anything I said was based on misconception other than that you seem to think that because some obscure world music genre isn't marketed by record labels that it somehow disproves my argument.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2018, 03:40 PM

You seem to define subgenres exclusively as marketing terms. That's very wrong. Glad to help mate.

Maajo · 01-26-2018, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You seem to define subgenres exclusively as marketing terms. That's very wrong. Glad to help mate.

I said that they're more or less just marketing terms, bruh. I know it's a subtle difference, but it's a big difference.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo

I said that they're more or less just marketing terms, bruh. I know it's a subtle difference, but it's a big difference.

You're reducing subgenres to marketing terms, whatever.

Maajo · 01-26-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

just a rejection of the excessive Chula rock

Post-Chula.

Maajo · 01-26-2018, 04:29 PM

Isn't that basically what Led Zeppelin, kings of the Chula Rock sub-genre, is? Just straight forward rock with no BS? I guess, they had their share of frills, especially from Led Zeppelin IV onward. Maybe not so much in the former spirit of every song being 3 minutes or less.

**Janszoon** · 01-27-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo

Isn't that basically what Led Zeppelin, kings of the Chula Rock sub-genre, is? Just straight forward rock with no BS? I guess, they had their share of frills, especially from Led Zeppelin IV onward. Maybe not so much in the former spirit of every song being 3 minutes or less.

Led Zeppelin had plenty of BS.

Dylstew · 01-27-2018, 03:04 PM

jesus christ I'm falling behind. Only update that I can give is that I like what I heard of the first Pere Ubu album and the Birthday party.

Maajo · 01-27-2018, 05:31 PM

Well, fwiw the last page or so is just Frown and I arguing over the merits of sub-genres.

Glad you liked The Birthday Party - you'd probably like The Minutemen too, now that I think about it. Definitely check out the album Double Nickels On The Dime if you haven't yet, I think that's considered post-punk.

rostasi · 01-27-2018, 05:53 PM

I prefer Post-Plunk.

01-26-2018, 03:40 PM	#42 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You seem to define subgenres exclusively as marketing terms. That's very wrong. Glad to help mate. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-26-2018, 04:29 PM	#46 (permalink)
Maajo Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 513	Isn't that basically what Led Zeppelin, kings of the Chula Rock sub-genre, is? Just straight forward rock with no BS? I guess, they had their share of frills, especially from Led Zeppelin IV onward. Maybe not so much in the former spirit of every song being 3 minutes or less.

01-27-2018, 03:04 PM	#48 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	jesus christ I'm falling behind. Only update that I can give is that I like what I heard of the first Pere Ubu album and the Birthday party.

01-27-2018, 05:31 PM	#49 (permalink)
Maajo Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 513	Well, fwiw the last page or so is just Frown and I arguing over the merits of sub-genres. Glad you liked The Birthday Party - you'd probably like The Minutemen too, now that I think about it. Definitely check out the album Double Nickels On The Dime if you haven't yet, I think that's considered post-punk.

01-27-2018, 05:53 PM	#50 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	I prefer Post-Plunk.