Nah. There might be heavy distaste for communism, but it's not the same level of disgust. I can tell my Fox News loving family I'm a communist, and while they would certainly look down upon me they'd at least let me in the door. If I told them I was a Nazi they'd probably disown me while making slave voices at the TV whenever a black person made a touchdown in football.

Do you even follow Communist movements? Stalin flags are displayed at John McDonnell rallies and Russian Communist rallies. Stormfront is some random internet site that has a large contingent of trolls who really don't believe what they say. Obviously some of them are racist, and I oppose all of them, but to pretend communists aren't sympathetic to the likes of Stalin, Mao, Guaverra etc. is completely moronic.

:rofl:

Not exaggerating btw. I love my family. But they're racist ****s.

Yeah I've never heard of anyone praising his ideology. I'm not educated on Stalin, but I've never gotten the impression that he was truly about ideology except as propaganda to maintain his regime.

I very rarely ever heard any minority ever referred to as anything but a racial slur in my house growing up. My dad without any sense of irony would say I like a lot of ******s. That was the highest degree of tolerance imaginable lol

Why would you be less sympathetic to the guy who was most dedicated to the ideology? Lenin and Guervera were evil, and resulted in many deaths, but neither quite had the same level of puritanical belief in Communism compared to Stalin.

Mao should be taken out of the discussion because the guy killed about 100 million people. Doesn't really matter if he was as dedicated or not at that point.

I read a biography on him a long time ago. He had to be one of the most feared human beings to ever live. Maybe the most.

100 million is your cut off? That's pretty reasonable.

Damn it. It's still early but I was kind of guessing that I was the only RAC fan here. It's kind of hard to search for the stuff since nobody but neo-Nazis even mentions it and unless one of the handful of RAC blogs has the album I'm looking for it's a toss up whether even Soulseek will. Some exchange of band recs would be nice, but oh well I guess.

Nobody cares about RAC or knows what it is aside from your bum ass. Clean your room, lose some weight and rescue your dead father from the underworld ffs.

Stalin was a devout communist. His methods were employed in order to attain the legitimate communist goals. You may not believe that his methods were true to communist goals, but the communist system demands totalitarian rule to implement it.

I thought it was a common term tbh. Rock Against Communism. Just scuzzy Nazi punk.

Isn't Skrewdriver at least well known? Ian Stuart and ****?

I've known about them since the 80's I think

Outside of metal the only Nazi music I've really loved is Prussian Blue

lulz That **** was hypnotically weird.

I Will Bleed for You is a lyrically incredible song. Besides the white power surface level there's also the imagery of menstruation and broken hymens of these barely pubescent white girls. And the tune and the video are absolutely gorgeous.

Well that sounds bizarre so I guess I'll have to check it out.

Dude when she plays that simple little guitar solo it's so ****ing pure.

I think I figured out my core fascination with this ****. Some of it does have musically redeeming qualities, but the lyrics aren't neo-Nazis speaking in an interview, they're neo-Nazis talking to each other. If you just listen to a song or two it sounds ****ty and retarded, but if you immerse yourself in **** like No Remorse and Totenkopf you get to get in their white trash heads a little bit and it's this weird, trippy, raw, negative headspace that's kind of fascinating. I can only listen to so much of this tbh. After a while I start feeling dirty and need lots of happy music to take the edge off.

So what if a band is singing about hella killing Aryans

Yeah man.

I mean, I'm not trying to dis you but that's a fancy way of saying a part of you believes in it. We both know it's a dead end stupid thing to believe but one thing I think we have in common is we both put our love for music in front of any political or social issue. You don't express things the same way I do but you trust the beauty of the art far more than any ideology or opposition to any ideology. One of the things you said in the initial post is you can understand the lyrics. Not relate to but simply make out the words. Just yesterday I was listening to Black Flag and I noticed the same thing. Politics aside the bands you linked to have a lot in common with Black Flag. The sound and some kind of message, whatever it is. With that Nazi **** there's no way your morals are going to outweigh the kick you get riding along. Back to it's fun. And look, beliefs are way more complex and fluid than we make them out to be. And like in my case, with Prussian Blue, it's almost like a willingness to suspend disbelief because the asthetic pull is so strong. The whole phenomenon is like you said "hypnotically weird". And everything about it is dirty. The message. The mother. Me getting a kick out of it. Hating it is bad. Liking it is bad. And then at the core of it they're little kids. Of course they want the whole thing forgotten. They've long since moved on. But unfortunately for them they hit the spot so well they're stuck with it. There's a weird subset of people who won't let it go.

Well I can safely say Skrewdriver's never gonna make me hate black people so I'm good on that front. But yeah there's definitely a pull there, just like how any main character in a book you read you're gonna kind of root for them simply because they're the one you're viewing the story from. And that rabid conviction they bring makes you listen even if you're not really paying too much attention. Now all of a sudden your world's just a little more twisted and it kind of snuck up on you.

Have you read The Turner Diaries?

I have not.

Edit: Just looked it up and yeah that sounds fascinating.

It's a blast. It's completely saturated with hate.

Lol. This **** is hilarious. It's ****ty punk with a ****ty message. Yet, somehow, you can't help but to listen, enjoy, and laugh at times.

The metal version is just way cooler

NSBM is just as ****ty for the most part, but it's not even as fun cause you can't hear what they're saying. What's the point of listening to Nazi music when you can't even tell it's Nazi music? Absurd are pretty awesome though, as are Grand Belial's Key.

Punk is gay.

Coudnt reply to your pm for some reason, but you do know I'm half black, right Batlord?

And? I'm not a Nazi but that doesn't stop me.

Doesn't stop you from what?

I wile out with my heil out.

well, there's a lot of different bands out there

If you're not careful you're gonna start to sound like me.

Do you know any unique/innovative RAC bands?

That's a legit question though cuz I'm sure you're a better authority than I. And I know all kinds of original NSBM bands.

Nah. They're almost universally inept or at least mediocre. But ignorant skinheads probably wouldn't sound as appropriate in a less scuzzy context. I'm always on the hunt for the White Whale though.

Such as?

Well there's everyone's favorite heathens Peste Noire, who throughout their career have established themselves as one of the most WTF black metal acts out there, cutting their already peculiar metal with all kinds of circus music and oi! jams and whatever kind of odd folk. This song (and album actually) isn't exactly indicative of that but it's one of the best songs ever



You can take a spin through here for the weirdness



Then there's a whole tide of outsider black metalers from France that sing about French pride and history and traditions. It's not always good but it's often pretty whack



From French to French-Canadian, Akitsa are a no brainer. They have a decent sized discography with a good amount of diversity within the raw blackness.*



Malveillance are more hateful about it though, at least in their first album which I couldn't find a video for after not looking very hard.*https://www.metal-archives.com/album..._emporte/32804 The review is pretty much it though. Not insanely unique but still separate from all the legions of sameness, with dark and oddly romantic riffs.*


Master's Hammer are super badass and experimental and sometimes dip into some kinda Czech nationalism in their lyrics even if it's not totally outright, but I think you're aware of them.

And Drudkh (and pretty much all groups spawned from them), definitely have a sound all of their own. They're more often about forests and stuff lyrically but still dabble with Ukrainian pride and heritage.*

I can't say for certain where these asterisks cane from

That's such a homophobic thing to say. You know what, masculine wannabe people like you are so terrible.

The world would benefit from being more gay.

Gah! Fuck you, you straight, white-privileged, cisgender, male, non-binary, retard!