Marie Monday

naaah what's not to love about this?

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MidnightRambler

You managed to post the only track by them that is semi-tolerable, but my dislike of Bikini Kill probably has more to do with the fact that they were grunge-adjacent than their lo-fi engineering.

I'm not a fan of grunge or the culture of the pacific northwest in the early 90s. It was probably the worst time in punk, next to a lot of the mid 90s hardcore like Raid, Birthright, etc.

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Marie Monday

Interesting, you consider them close to grunge? I'm generally not a huge grunge fan either, with a rew exceptions, but I don't think bikini Kill sounds grunge at all. When I'm talking about bikini Kill I'm basically talking only about the first two records album though, later albums haven't really clicked with me so far

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SGR

I don't know about most 'energetic', that seems somewhat subjective. But I don't think 'impactful' is subjective, at least if our definition of 'impactful' is the influence it had on the punk scene. It's gotta be 'Anarchy in the UK' by the Pistols - does anything else really come close in terms of impact?

As for energy, I'll give a few nominations:

MidnightRambler

It's the engineering on the first two records. It definitely has a very grunge production value to my ears. The music itself isn't grunge obviously, it's just the way it was recorded has that very "seattle sound"

I don't like a lot of music that everyone says is great though, and it's not an attempt to be different, it just doesn't move me the way other stuff does.

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Marie Monday

No I get that, that's totally fair

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MidnightRambler

For instance: GG Allin has terrible production value, but I listen to him because he's hilarious in a very 6th grade way. I have some of his material on vinyl (Legalize Murder, FFD&J) but I more than likely won't be spending any of my own money on his work because it's simply not worth the money when there are better records out there to get.

I like Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, etc but the production value on those albums isn't great either... however the songs are very catchy and I often find myself singing them hours after I spin the disc.

I really wanted to like Bikini Kill when I was younger and thought that I was into revolutionary politics, but I found myself kind of shrugging them off after I downloaded them from P2P due to nothing really sticking in my head. A "girl band" that I do like a lot however, is Fire Party (Dischord).

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Nothing says "revolutionary communist" like running back to mommy's house to live & eat for free after a long day of fighting the man

Marie Monday

What do you mean by production value? My technical music knowledge is terrible (not that my general music knowledge is much to speak of compared to the bunch of living encyclopedias here). Technically badly produced albums like the Stooges' Raw Power, or ugly production/bad taste? I suppose those two overlap.
I'm attracted to much of the ideas that Bikini Kill stands for, but strictly speaking I don't entirely agree with them because I think their feminism lacks nuance. But then again, politics in punk pretty much always lacks nuance, that's part of the fun of it, so I suppose taking them too literally is unfair. Also from another point of view I like their lack of nuance and their aggression, because it goes against what well behaved women were supposed to do. But yeah basically I don't care about the politics, I just want to hear Kathleen Hanna **** **** up
And I will check out Fire Party!

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SGR

Don't pick on my treasured 1997 Iggy mix

The Batlord

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