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cubeofcreation 08-06-2005 02:16 AM

hahaha punk isn't music
 
ok guys, this is gonna be my first and last post on this forum. I have a few things to say, mostly stuff that i think is funny because of it's stupidity.

1) Punk is a lifestyle, all you people get caught up in the music. Sure some of the music is good, but for the most part it sucks, honestly. Being a punk isn't about going to parties and listening to dumb music and dancing around and dressing silly. Being a punk is about destroying the system, messing with cops, causing disturbance, VANDALISM! How many of you can honestly say that you hate the system. If you really hate it so much why don't you show it. Sure you can say: "i hate the government, they suck", but as the age old saying goes, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

2) Have any of you guys ever noticed that the way you dress is ridiculous and quite conformist. You wear generic tee-shirts of your favorite bands' names and logos, you have tight pants with patches of your favorite bands' names and logos sewn all over them, and you all have some crazy hairstyle. All of you think that these things make you stand out. Well guess what, THEY DON'T!!! The way punks dress has become a sort of uniform, to show "I am a punk". Why does it matter to you if the world knows you're a punk? oh ya, I forgot, because to you it's a trend.

3) Punk has become so generic and systemized, that to be a "punk" you have to fit a standard mold. I consider myself a punk, and I listen to every kind of music, dress however I want, and do whatever I want, and police be damned.

4)The most important thing of all: YOU CONFORM TO REBELLION!!
That's right all you "anarchists" out there, you think your so rebellious, because you say you hate the government, and say you want to tear it all down, but how many of you are saying this? Thousands, maybe millions, aren't you creating a system yourselves? Aren't you all just conforming to non-conformism. That's right, its an oxymoron, your whole "anarchist" lifestyle is an oxymoron. Overall, anarchy is an illogical concept, unless you manage to break away and live outside the system, isolated, not living off anything the goventment provides. Mountain men are real anarchists, not you "punks".




a few last words: It's quite hilarious that a forum on punk doesn't allow cursing. Also, please don't rain down on me with useless cliches and quotes from SLC Punk! that you claim are your own. (I'm sure we've all seen that movie, and most of you missed the point.) Please only post here if you have something of value to say. Screaming and yelling will not solve your problems. As I've said before, I am not posting anything else, but I thought this might shed some light on your lifestyles, and open up a brand new topic for all you "punks" to think about. That's it, I'm out.

jesus 08-06-2005 02:38 AM

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hiu 08-06-2005 03:45 AM

I agree with the threadstarter and Jeebus, that's hawt. Punk is about throwing bowling balls at ice cream trucks.

Sneer 08-06-2005 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubeofcreation
ok guys, this is gonna be my first and last post on this forum. I have a few things to say, mostly stuff that i think is funny because of it's stupidity.

1) Punk is a lifestyle, all you people get caught up in the music. Sure some of the music is good, but for the most part it sucks, honestly. Being a punk isn't about going to parties and listening to dumb music and dancing around and dressing silly. Being a punk is about destroying the system, messing with cops, causing disturbance, VANDALISM! How many of you can honestly say that you hate the system. If you really hate it so much why don't you show it. Sure you can say: "i hate the government, they suck", but as the age old saying goes, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

2) Have any of you guys ever noticed that the way you dress is ridiculous and quite conformist. You wear generic tee-shirts of your favorite bands' names and logos, you have tight pants with patches of your favorite bands' names and logos sewn all over them, and you all have some crazy hairstyle. All of you think that these things make you stand out. Well guess what, THEY DON'T!!! The way punks dress has become a sort of uniform, to show "I am a punk". Why does it matter to you if the world knows you're a punk? oh ya, I forgot, because to you it's a trend.

3) Punk has become so generic and systemized, that to be a "punk" you have to fit a standard mold. I consider myself a punk, and I listen to every kind of music, dress however I want, and do whatever I want, and police be damned.

4)The most important thing of all: YOU CONFORM TO REBELLION!!
That's right all you "anarchists" out there, you think your so rebellious, because you say you hate the government, and say you want to tear it all down, but how many of you are saying this? Thousands, maybe millions, aren't you creating a system yourselves? Aren't you all just conforming to non-conformism. That's right, its an oxymoron, your whole "anarchist" lifestyle is an oxymoron. Overall, anarchy is an illogical concept, unless you manage to break away and live outside the system, isolated, not living off anything the goventment provides. Mountain men are real anarchists, not you "punks".




a few last words: It's quite hilarious that a forum on punk doesn't allow cursing. Also, please don't rain down on me with useless cliches and quotes from SLC Punk! that you claim are your own. (I'm sure we've all seen that movie, and most of you missed the point.) Please only post here if you have something of value to say. Screaming and yelling will not solve your problems. As I've said before, I am not posting anything else, but I thought this might shed some light on your lifestyles, and open up a brand new topic for all you "punks" to think about. That's it, I'm out.

all true.

Imonlydancing 08-06-2005 05:18 AM

But there didn't need to be 3 threads of the same thing, this is just gonna start an argument, in my reckoning anyways.

jesus 08-06-2005 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Imonlydancing
this is just gonna start an argument

duh

2100 08-06-2005 05:46 AM

He has/she a point! Shame, that was there last post, I was starting to like them. :)

ArtistInTheAmbulance 08-06-2005 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubeofcreation
4)The most important thing of all: YOU CONFORM TO REBELLION!!
That's right all you "anarchists" out there, you think your so rebellious, because you say you hate the government, and say you want to tear it all down, but how many of you are saying this? Thousands, maybe millions, aren't you creating a system yourselves? Aren't you all just conforming to non-conformism. That's right, its an oxymoron, your whole "anarchist" lifestyle is an oxymoron. Overall, anarchy is an illogical concept, unless you manage to break away and live outside the system, isolated, not living off anything the goventment provides. Mountain men are real anarchists, not you "punks".

I love you for that. Seriously.

Oh yeah, and we have to have a swearing filter on because of the very thing you've been complaining about. People joining up, jus to post things such as "F*CK THE GOVERNEMT" and shiat.

But whatever, its not like youre coming back anyways. Hmm.

partisan 08-06-2005 07:21 AM

I don't dress this way to be non conformist or origional, I dress this way cos I like it and feel like I can identify with punk.

phoenixflames 08-06-2005 09:18 AM

^ So you dress the way you dress to fit in with punk?

All_Nite_Dinah 08-06-2005 09:47 AM

What a stupid thread, its funny that so many of you think this guy was acctually right. Hes a moron. Its just another example of some kid whos never been involved in the punk community ridiculing what he knows nothing about. Ill try to break it down for you kiddies.

1.Punk is very much about the music. Saying punk isnt about music is like saying that crayons arnt about the colors. Your an idiot, you think that punks havnt been working together for positive social change sense the 70's? Punks have been so involved in social progress I cant belive you neglect it. Massive demonstartions, serving food not bombs, supporting independent buisness,not conforming to societies standard of racism and sexism, etc. etc. You think "Being a punk is about destroying the system, messing with cops, causing disturbance, VANDALISM!" Well that might impress the kids on the bus but that **** isnt going to cut it kid. You can taunt all the cops you want and get arrested and rot away in jail your not doing a ****ing thing for the world around you. Spray painting Cops stink on a wall is more counterproductive than anything.

2. Every body dresses in a standard that conforms to something or another. I've never heard a single punk say that they were dressing up original. I wear what I wear as an olive branch to other punks I may see. Its a way to show a united front that if you see another kid out there wearing a Deviated instinct shirt you can talk to him in confidence that they will have something in common with you. What makes you think your so much better than anyone else by wearing whatever it is you wear? I also dress the way I do as a way to show other people that REAL punks arnt bad people. Because we DONT just sit around all day taunting cops,getting drunk, and throwing bottles. We are real people and have alot to say regardless of what shirt we're wearing.

3. Who said punks dont do whatever they like. In my experience the vast majority of punks listen to more than just punk music. I've never met 2 punks who are exactly alike I think the "mold" as you say it is pretty big. And they do do what they want. Once again I wonder what makes you think your soooo much cooler than everyone else.

4.This is one of my biggest pet peeves. All you kids who dont know what your talking about trying to preach on anarchy. I dont know what your even trying to say by "conforming to non conformism"(conformism isnt a word by the way) Taking action against something dosnt mean your conforming, it means your uniting for a common cause. And this is for all you kids ou there that think that anarchy is fires and explosions and chaos. ITS NOT,rewad a bit about ACCTUAL anarchist theory before you try preaching.

All you people really hit a nerve with this one. Which is also a nice show of hands as to who is acctually in tuned with the punk culture. You all rally behind som ekid that comes on here makes one post to piss people off and runs away. This kid is a jackass, none of what he said makes any sense. Look at the title for christ sakes "punk isn't music" then why the **** are you hear kiddo? This is the kind of **** that just brings more ignorance into the scene. Now all you kids are going to get on the holier than though punk suck power trip and go spreading this ignorance around even further. You think by posting this your being any more rebellious than anyone else? Or is it just a show of your cowardice and fear of persecution? You all go runing around denouncing punk then when the time comes to screw up something big you do it and say your punk to give it a bad name. Your the same kids that get clubs shut down, mess up shows, mess up progresssive projects. Your the enemy. Get a ****ing life.

I suppose no its time for urban to come along and applaud what this kid is saying and for the rest of you tooo crawl up his lower intestines.

sleepy jack 08-06-2005 10:06 AM

I love you all nite dinah..i was just gonna mereley attack the punk is music part but seeing as you did it all... :)

ArtistInTheAmbulance 08-06-2005 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
What a stupid thread, its funny that so many of you think this guy was acctually right.

4.This is one of my biggest pet peeves. All you kids who dont know what your talking about trying to preach on anarchy. I dont know what your even trying to say by "conforming to non conformism"(conformism isnt a word by the way) Taking action against something dosnt mean your conforming, it means your uniting for a common cause. And this is for all you kids ou there that think that anarchy is fires and explosions and chaos. ITS NOT,rewad a bit about ACCTUAL anarchist theory before you try preaching.

I actually completely agreed with what he wrote in his number 4. He made it pretty clear that their "anarchism" wasnt true, just another thing to latch onto to make themselves look "punk" or whatever bullsh*t you wanna call it. He couldnt have meant actual anarchy and rebellion, most of the kids he was talking about were in their early teens. All they care about is looking and sounding like anarchists.

Quote:

I suppose no its time for urban to come along and applaud what this kid is saying and for the rest of you tooo crawl up his lower intestines.
Er.. No thanks.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-06-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah

I suppose no its time for urban to come along and applaud what this kid is saying and for the rest of you tooo crawl up his lower intestines.

My arguement about punk is it`s redundant & has been for years.

I couldn`t care less about any of this , I`ve moved on from caring about punk 'music'. I just think it`s a shame that a genre of music thats so dull & lifeless is getting so much attention.

Spike*Spiegel 08-06-2005 10:47 AM

whats wrong with that?? its very comfy in there

boo boo 08-06-2005 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
I actually completely agreed with what he wrote in his number 4. He made it pretty clear that their "anarchism" wasnt true, just another thing to latch onto to make themselves look "punk" or whatever bullsh*t you wanna call it. He couldnt have meant actual anarchy and rebellion, most of the kids he was talking about were in their early teens. All they care about is looking and sounding like anarchists.


Er.. No thanks.

i find it ironic that you bash punk, yet the guy on your avatar was very influenced by punk rock.

boo boo 08-06-2005 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
What a stupid thread, its funny that so many of you think this guy was acctually right. Hes a moron. Its just another example of some kid whos never been involved in the punk community ridiculing what he knows nothing about. Ill try to break it down for you kiddies.

1.Punk is very much about the music. Saying punk isnt about music is like saying that crayons arnt about the colors. Your an idiot, you think that punks havnt been working together for positive social change sense the 70's? Punks have been so involved in social progress I cant belive you neglect it. Massive demonstartions, serving food not bombs, supporting independent buisness,not conforming to societies standard of racism and sexism, etc. etc. You think "Being a punk is about destroying the system, messing with cops, causing disturbance, VANDALISM!" Well that might impress the kids on the bus but that **** isnt going to cut it kid. You can taunt all the cops you want and get arrested and rot away in jail your not doing a ****ing thing for the world around you. Spray painting Cops stink on a wall is more counterproductive than anything.

2. Every body dresses in a standard that conforms to something or another. I've never heard a single punk say that they were dressing up original. I wear what I wear as an olive branch to other punks I may see. Its a way to show a united front that if you see another kid out there wearing a Deviated instinct shirt you can talk to him in confidence that they will have something in common with you. What makes you think your so much better than anyone else by wearing whatever it is you wear? I also dress the way I do as a way to show other people that REAL punks arnt bad people. Because we DONT just sit around all day taunting cops,getting drunk, and throwing bottles. We are real people and have alot to say regardless of what shirt we're wearing.

3. Who said punks dont do whatever they like. In my experience the vast majority of punks listen to more than just punk music. I've never met 2 punks who are exactly alike I think the "mold" as you say it is pretty big. And they do do what they want. Once again I wonder what makes you think your soooo much cooler than everyone else.

4.This is one of my biggest pet peeves. All you kids who dont know what your talking about trying to preach on anarchy. I dont know what your even trying to say by "conforming to non conformism"(conformism isnt a word by the way) Taking action against something dosnt mean your conforming, it means your uniting for a common cause. And this is for all you kids ou there that think that anarchy is fires and explosions and chaos. ITS NOT,rewad a bit about ACCTUAL anarchist theory before you try preaching.

All you people really hit a nerve with this one. Which is also a nice show of hands as to who is acctually in tuned with the punk culture. You all rally behind som ekid that comes on here makes one post to piss people off and runs away. This kid is a jackass, none of what he said makes any sense. Look at the title for christ sakes "punk isn't music" then why the **** are you hear kiddo? This is the kind of **** that just brings more ignorance into the scene. Now all you kids are going to get on the holier than though punk suck power trip and go spreading this ignorance around even further. You think by posting this your being any more rebellious than anyone else? Or is it just a show of your cowardice and fear of persecution? You all go runing around denouncing punk then when the time comes to screw up something big you do it and say your punk to give it a bad name. Your the same kids that get clubs shut down, mess up shows, mess up progresssive projects. Your the enemy. Get a ****ing life.

I suppose no its time for urban to come along and applaud what this kid is saying and for the rest of you tooo crawl up his lower intestines.

i agree, there is nothing more lame than devoting a thread to bashing a whole genre, however threads like this is common in most of the other music forums i post on.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 08-06-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
i find it ironic that you bash punk, yet the guy on your avatar was very influenced by punk rock.

What? When was I bashing punk? I was talking about the kids that go around saying "F*CK THE GOVERNMENT" with anarchy patches all over em, without having the faintest idea what they're talking about.

Josephine 08-06-2005 11:29 AM

I read the title and I just hated this thread.
That's all I got to say.

Sneer 08-06-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah
What a stupid thread, its funny that so many of you think this guy was acctually right. Hes a moron. Its just another example of some kid whos never been involved in the punk community ridiculing what he knows nothing about. Ill try to break it down for you kiddies.

1.Punk is very much about the music. Saying punk isnt about music is like saying that crayons arnt about the colors. Your an idiot, you think that punks havnt been working together for positive social change sense the 70's? Punks have been so involved in social progress I cant belive you neglect it. Massive demonstartions, serving food not bombs, supporting independent buisness,not conforming to societies standard of racism and sexism, etc. etc. You think "Being a punk is about destroying the system, messing with cops, causing disturbance, VANDALISM!" Well that might impress the kids on the bus but that **** isnt going to cut it kid. You can taunt all the cops you want and get arrested and rot away in jail your not doing a ****ing thing for the world around you. Spray painting Cops stink on a wall is more counterproductive than anything.

2. Every body dresses in a standard that conforms to something or another. I've never heard a single punk say that they were dressing up original. I wear what I wear as an olive branch to other punks I may see. Its a way to show a united front that if you see another kid out there wearing a Deviated instinct shirt you can talk to him in confidence that they will have something in common with you. What makes you think your so much better than anyone else by wearing whatever it is you wear? I also dress the way I do as a way to show other people that REAL punks arnt bad people. Because we DONT just sit around all day taunting cops,getting drunk, and throwing bottles. We are real people and have alot to say regardless of what shirt we're wearing.

3. Who said punks dont do whatever they like. In my experience the vast majority of punks listen to more than just punk music. I've never met 2 punks who are exactly alike I think the "mold" as you say it is pretty big. And they do do what they want. Once again I wonder what makes you think your soooo much cooler than everyone else.

4.This is one of my biggest pet peeves. All you kids who dont know what your talking about trying to preach on anarchy. I dont know what your even trying to say by "conforming to non conformism"(conformism isnt a word by the way) Taking action against something dosnt mean your conforming, it means your uniting for a common cause. And this is for all you kids ou there that think that anarchy is fires and explosions and chaos. ITS NOT,rewad a bit about ACCTUAL anarchist theory before you try preaching.

All you people really hit a nerve with this one. Which is also a nice show of hands as to who is acctually in tuned with the punk culture. You all rally behind som ekid that comes on here makes one post to piss people off and runs away. This kid is a jackass, none of what he said makes any sense. Look at the title for christ sakes "punk isn't music" then why the **** are you hear kiddo? This is the kind of **** that just brings more ignorance into the scene. Now all you kids are going to get on the holier than though punk suck power trip and go spreading this ignorance around even further. You think by posting this your being any more rebellious than anyone else? Or is it just a show of your cowardice and fear of persecution? You all go runing around denouncing punk then when the time comes to screw up something big you do it and say your punk to give it a bad name. Your the same kids that get clubs shut down, mess up shows, mess up progresssive projects. Your the enemy. Get a ****ing life.

I suppose no its time for urban to come along and applaud what this kid is saying and for the rest of you tooo crawl up his lower intestines.

well if this isnt the most patronising post ive ever seen. we all have are own perceptions of punk. deal with it.

boo boo 08-06-2005 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
What? When was I bashing punk? I was talking about the kids that go around saying "F*CK THE GOVERNMENT" with anarchy patches all over em, without having the faintest idea what they're talking about.

oh, im sorry i misread you, i shouldnt have responded like that, my apologies.

hookers with machineguns 08-06-2005 11:33 AM

If you guys hate punk, please don't come in and ruin the punk forum (even more than it already is). Thanks.


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