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Old 01-24-2017, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You know how I know Chula doesn't like or listen to punk

He takes every opportunity to personally let everyone know
Well I guess it's to even the score, cause he take an awful lot of pop-shots for being the Led Zeppelin aficionado of MB.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey man, if you have evidence that Led Zeppelin didn't spark the Baroque period, he's all ears.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey man, if you have evidence that Led Zeppelin didn't spark the Baroque period, he's all ears.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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No wave
Post punk
2 tone
deathrock
jazz punk
crunkcore
pop punk
synthpunk

There are a couple of punk subgenres.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No wave
Post punk
2 tone
deathrock
jazz punk
crunkcore
pop punk
synthpunk

There are a couple of punk subgenres.
I'm still struggling with what defines them as 'punk' as opposed to 'rock'. That's the question that has to answered for this argument to be settled. Is punk defined along musical lines? Or is it lyrics and ethos? Can't say I'm familiar with 'No wave', '2 tone' or 'crunkcore' but all the others are easily classified as rock music. Truly not trying to be difficult here. I've gone through this thread and no one is defining what they think the punk sound is (outside of a conversation about downstrokes). I think we need more clarity and distance between 'punk' and 'rock', otherwise it's going to keep being 'u.' 'no u.' 'no u!'


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Ugh

let me explain this again

Punk Rock is amateur unprofessional lofi dissonant Rock

Surf Punk is amateur unprofessional lofi dissonant Surf Rock

Politics does not necessarily have anything to do with punk first wave punk was barely coherently political beyond the DIY ethos
Sorry, didn't see this if you had explained it earlier.

So what you're saying is production values define punk rock? Or the professionalism of the musicians?
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I'm still struggling with what defines them as 'punk' as opposed to 'rock'. That's the question that has to answered for this argument to be settled. Is punk defined along musical lines? Or is it lyrics and ethos? Can't say I'm familiar with 'No wave', '2 tone' or 'crunkcore' but all the others are easily classified as rock music. Truly not trying to be difficult here. I've gone through this thread and no one is defining what they think the punk sound is (outside of a conversation about downstrokes). I think we need more clarity and distance between 'punk' and 'rock', otherwise it's going to keep being 'u.' 'no u.' 'no u!'
How on earth is jazz punk rock?
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How on earth is jazz punk rock?
Must have missed that one. But I'll flip that, what makes 'jazz punk' not 'jazz rock'? Like what is the defining characteristic that moves it away from rock music to punk.
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Must have missed that one. But I'll flip that, what makes 'jazz punk' not 'jazz rock'? Like what is the defining characteristic that moves it away from rock music to punk.
More energy. Plus jazz rock is a very diverse term.
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crunkcore? that's considered punk?
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crunkcore? that's considered punk?
I'm glad you caught that.
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