First Punk Band?

William_the_Bloody · 01-21-2017, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Was the question which punk band was the first to sell a lot of records because then you're totally right

lol at The Stooges being hippies they were as about as much as Lou Reed was a hippy

Your beyond all help elphenor, your caretaker is waiting for you at the ICFMR. I suggest you shuffle along.

Chula Vista · 01-21-2017, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Lol don't tell me you're into the whole punk is dead rhetoric.

Punk has been a cliche for decades. Same as Glam, Disco, New Wave, Hair Metal, etc. Just a blip on the rock and roll map.

Tristan_Geoff · 01-21-2017, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Punk has been a cliche for decades. Same as Glam, Disco, New Wave, Hair Metal, etc. Just a blip on the rock and roll map.

I mean there isn't a whole lot of game-changing stuff coming out anymore but it's always quality anyways. No matter what I feel like there will be new trends and directions the genre goes in, same with any other genre. There's always gonna be that one guy in his parents basement making something insane that blows up in a couple years and changes things again.

Tristan_Geoff · 01-21-2017, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Rock and Roll is just a blip on the Blues map

tru

Chula Vista · 01-21-2017, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Rock and Roll is just a blip on the Blues map

**Frownland** · 01-21-2017, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

This stupid argument again. The first punk band of course is the Sex Pistols. They are the reason the whole genre got labelled punk in the first place. The term may have been used in obscurity before the Pistols, but it was Caroline Coon's use of the term punk to describe the British scene, that got picked up by the media and turned into a widespread phenomenon.

The Sonics, MC5, Death and all that 60's so called proto punk is not punk, its psychedelic garage rock. The closest thing was Iggy and the Stooges, and they were still a drugged out hippy garage rock band. No one in 68 was walking around saying "hey lets form a punk band."

I suppose you could argue that the Ramones were the first punk band in sound, but again without the Pistols the New York scene would have been nothing but a few art school college kids with limited impact (Blondie Aside)

The Pistols brought the nihilistic sound, attitude and look, and the politics and violence that attracted millions of imitators in the UK and the US to form bands like Black Flag, the Circle Jerks, Misfits, Discharge, The Exploited, Green Day, Offspring ect, ect. Without the 70's there would have been no 80's, without the 80's no 90's.

Anyways punk is irrelevant now. It was a youth culture movement that existed when big urban centers like London and New York had large inhabitants of urban white kids running around, rebelling against arena rock. Try finding that today. Grime and hip hop are the punk of today, punk is dead, no more, get with the times.

That would make Suicide the first punk band.

grindy · 01-21-2017, 01:30 AM

I'll just leave Peter Hammill's 1975 album 'Nadir's Big Chance' here.
So much for the punk-prog antagonism.
It's also a great album.

I also always thought 'Outside My Door' from Can's 1969 album Monster Movie was remarkably punky.

JiggleMonster · 01-21-2017, 07:21 PM

I like punk, but the punk I like makes "real punk rockers" dislike me. Especially the slimy punk rockers living here in the south. I have a friend who used to put grease in his hair. like..fvcking motor grease. He has every punk album imaginable on vinyl. Punk Rockers like that are strange to me. Nonconformist typa shiit. This dude literally has a junkyard in his backyard. He works his 60+ hours a week, knows his trade(s), does man shiit, and listens to punk music. but anyways.
I don't know where I was going witht that.

JiggleMonster · 01-21-2017, 07:35 PM

yeah...you'd get along with him well.

JiggleMonster · 01-21-2017, 07:36 PM

This dude has a car motor sitting on his kitchen table, last I hung out with him.

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	I'll just leave Peter Hammill's 1975 album 'Nadir's Big Chance' here. So much for the punk-prog antagonism. It's also a great album. I also always thought 'Outside My Door' from Can's 1969 album Monster Movie was remarkably punky. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

01-21-2017, 07:21 PM	#68 (permalink)
JiggleMonster GoochTickler Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 249	I like punk, but the punk I like makes "real punk rockers" dislike me. Especially the slimy punk rockers living here in the south. I have a friend who used to put grease in his hair. like..fvcking motor grease. He has every punk album imaginable on vinyl. Punk Rockers like that are strange to me. Nonconformist typa shiit. This dude literally has a junkyard in his backyard. He works his 60+ hours a week, knows his trade(s), does man shiit, and listens to punk music. but anyways. I don't know where I was going witht that.

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JiggleMonster GoochTickler Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 249	yeah...you'd get along with him well.

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JiggleMonster GoochTickler Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 249	This dude has a car motor sitting on his kitchen table, last I hung out with him.