Frownland

I actually agree, I was just making a joke about Jimmy Page.

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Frownland

Flimsy by punk standards + pre-1976 = proto-punk

It's really only the guitar riff and drumming throughout, the rest is more standard classic rock.

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The Batlord

Still the best Zep song and I'd put it on a proto-punk mix in a heartbeat.

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Chula Vista

Johnny Ramone says that CB, and the way that Page played it, was a major influence on the basic foundations of the Ramone's sound, i.e., PUNK.

MB members chime in on how JR's comments, back when The Ramones started to explode on the scene and influence EVERYONE, mean nothing.

OK, got it. This place blows my mind sometimes.

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Frownland

So you think that being an influence on punk means that it is punk? This may blow your mind but I really disagree with that. Can you back up how CB is punk in your own words?

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The Batlord

"Sister Ray" was post-punk before punk, and has more punk energy and attitude than the vast majority of actual punk.

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Chula Vista

Go grab an electric guitar. Then turn up your amp as loud as it can go with tons of gain and distortion. Then close your eyes and imagine it's January 1969. Forty eight ****ing years ago.

Now play Communication Breakdown using nothing but solid down-strokes so that the root note is prominent.

Half a decade later everyone takes Page's approach and creates punk. Including the seminal Ramones.

Do the ****ing math.

Also, stop being the 2016 dick-weed Frowny. You're arguing with me just to argue. You don't have a point. You're just poking your tiny stick. Again.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

Yeesh forgive me for trying to have an actual discussion and see your side of things, Mr. Sensitive (I'm not even sure how you think my last post was douchey). This persecution complex bull**** is getting on my nerves.

I still don't think that influencing punk is the same as being punk. That's called proto-punk. See my Louis Armstrong example. It'll take more than "1969!" to sway me.

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Tristan_Geoff

Opinion: Who put out the first punk track, the Monks or the Seeds?

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